City Council Regular Meeting — May 5, 2026

Now, therefore, I am Lee Francis, mayor of the city of Fort Collins, to hereby proclaim May 3rd through 9th, 2026 as National Travel and Tourism Week.

Congratulations. Thank you. You want to say a few words?

We just want to say thank you to Mayor Francis and Council in general, so supported with

tourism efforts, I think, and Amanda, who is on our board, and we appreciate that.

Sana is here this evening, who also does a variety of things with us.

So travel and tourism makes a difference.

We're grateful for all of you, and we gently tease.

We do it to ourselves, right? We bring all our family and friends because we love it here. So thank you.

okay the next proclamation we have is economic development week if you would like to support this proclamation please come on down welcome and Sierra are you accepting the proclamation oh you're gonna okay great all right whereas economic development or as we call it in the city of Fort Collins economic health supports the foundation of a healthy, equitable, and resilient community where people and businesses can thrive. And whereas economic development partners such as Colorado Small Business Development Center serving Larimer County, Colorado State University, Downtown Development Authority, Fort Collins Area Chamber of Commerce, Larimer County Economic and Workforce Development, Northern Colorado Regional Economic Development Initiative, Upstate Colorado, Visit Fort Collins, and City of Fort Collins work together to help businesses of all sizes and bring visitors to enjoy our beautiful community. And whereas these economic partners cultivate and nurture businesses and entrepreneurship that are the heart of Fort Collins' character and economic strength to promote a strong and vibrant community, providing residents with meaningful employment, opportunities, and enhanced quality of life. And whereas economic development professionals work to foster a strong local economy by promoting business, fostering tourism, and celebrating the community's unique identity. And whereas since 1926, the International Economic Development Council and its preceding organizations have advanced the profession globally, marking 100 years of leadership dedicated to fostering growth, innovation, inclusion, sustainability, and resilience in communities of all sizes. Now therefore, I am Lee Francis, Mayor of the City of Fort Collins, do hereby proclaim May 4th through 10th, 2026 as Economic Development meet development week in Fort Collins to celebrate economic development that bolsters a thriving

economy. So as a resident of the city of Fort Collins and a regional economic developer I work for the town of Windsor but I also serve as the economic development chair for our regional economic development group with my co-chair Sierra Federer we really appreciate the work the City of Fort Collins is doing not only for providing the amenities for our residents here in our community for the opportunity to shop and eat and play here but as well as helping to reduce the tax burden as we think about the continued economic growth and the dependency on continuing to have a strong community here so thank you for all the work this team does

and as one of council's adopted priorities we know how important economic health is to our community so thank you for your work okay the next one we have is National Police Week if you would like to support this come on down Greg hi thank you sure all right whereas the Congress and President of the United States have designated May 15th as National Peace Officers Memorial Day and calendar week in which May 15 falls as National Police Week. Established by a joint resolution of Congress in 1962, National Police Week pays special recognition to those law enforcement officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty for the safety and protection of others. And whereas the members of the law enforcement agency of the City of Fort Collins play a central role in safeguarding the rights and freedoms of the residents in our community. And whereas it is important that all community members know and understand the duties, responsibilities, hazards, and sacrifices of their police department and that members of our law enforcement agency recognize their duty to serve the people by safeguarding life and property by protecting them against violence and disorder and protecting the innocent against deception and the weak against oppression or intimidation and whereas for constantly services has grown to be a progressive and professional law enforcement agency which unceasingly provides a vital public service and whereas the residents of Fort Collins are urged to join in commemorating law enforcement officers past and present who by their faithful and loyal devotion to their communities have established for themselves the enduring reputation of preserving the rights and security of all community members. Now therefore I am Lee Francis, Mayor of the City of Fort Collins, do hereby proclaim May 10th through 16th, 2026 as National Police Week and further call upon all community members of the city of Fort Collins to observe May 15th 2026 as National Peace Officer Memorial Day to honor those peace officers who through their courageous deeds have lost their lives or have become disabled in the

performance of duty good evening my name is Greg Yeager I serve as the deputy

chief and on behalf of chief Jeff Svoboda and the rest of the men and women of police services we just want to thank the mayor and our council for this

proclamation. We've lost two officers in the early 1900s to homicide in regard to their duties. And so when we think about that and we think about honoring the sacrifices of so many peace officers around our country, our personnel are still so devoted to this community. We feel very

fortunate to work in a community that supports its law enforcement and that supports the men and

women who have served in that function. So thank you for that. Thank you, Mayor, for this proclamation. Thank you. .

Okay, and the last one we have is Historic Preservation Month. If you would like to support this, come on down.

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Okay. Whereas historic places in the Four Cons area are tangible reflections of the lives, culture, memory, and craftsmanship of people who have lived in this region over time. And whereas research on urban vitality demonstrates that reusing historic places are a keystone of our economic, social, and environmental well-being, attracting private investment, boosting tourism, creating well-paying jobs, and distinguishing our city's unique identity. And whereas older rehabilitated buildings and neighborhoods often offer low-class spaces for small business and Lor-income residents in walkable and bikeable areas. And whereas the City of Fort Collins established a historic preservation program in 1968 that today is recognized as a leader both regionally and nationally for its innovative and interdisciplinary approach to preservation that supports community members. and whereas recognizing the nation's 250th anniversary the national trust for historic preservation has deemed preservation month 2026 as all people are created equal and whereas we we recognize vital partners in the city's ongoing efforts to steward our sense of place and history including trade professionals design professionals cultural resource professionals individual historic property owners the historic preservation commission city council the downtown development

authority, Colorado State University, Cash La Poudre National Heritage Area, the Cultural Enrichment Center, the Fort Collins Historical Society, Historic Lamer County, the Fort Collins Museum of Discovery, the Museo de los Colonias, and the Fort Collins Municipal Railway Society,

and the Poudre Landmarks Foundation, and its auxiliary groups, the Friends of the Avery House and the Friends of the Water Works. It's a long list. Now, therefore, I am Lee Francis, Mayor of the City of Fort Collins do hereby proclaim the month of May 2026 as Fort Collins Historic Preservation Month and call upon the residents of Fort Collins to join in recognizing and participating in the preservation of our diverse heritage.

So I just want to point out I think we have representatives from every single one of those groups that Mayor Francis just mentioned. So thank you Mayor Francis. On behalf of the many Fort Collins residents who value and care deeply for our historic places, I am honored to accept this proclamation recognizing Historic Preservation Month. Historic Preservation is about more than just saving buildings. It's about protecting the stories, craftsmanship, and communities they represent while strengthening our city's future. Preservation shapes our local identity. The places we protect tell the story of who we are. They not only acknowledge our past but shape who we are becoming. Because of this, it's important that we preserve sites that tell our whole story. That means recognizing not only well-known figures such as Franklin Avery and Abner Loomis, but also Charlie Clay, Maddie Lyle, Hong Sing, Uichi Shimotsu, Father John Fuyana, Frank and Mary Perez, the Sanfuegos family, and so many others whose histories have too often been overlooked. We've made meaningful progress, but we have already lost important pieces of these undervalued stories, so we can do better. Preservation is also a powerful economic engine. Reinvesting in historic preservation supports local jobs, attracts people to vibrant, authentic places, and strengthens our local economy. Old Town is proof of that. It is an economic powerhouse and a cornerstone of our communal identity, but the same potential exists

in neighborhoods throughout the city. Some of these places may not appear historic at first glance, a mid-century neighborhood, a post-war commercial strip, yet they still tell an important part of

our story. Sites like Autopint and Stodgy Brewing show how adaptive reuse can bring new life to older spaces, while mid-century sites such as El Palomino and the former Lamplighter Motel could be rehabilitated with the help of historic preservation tax credits and grants and provide clean and safe affordable housing. Preserving such sites can strengthen our local identity while creating authentic places that drive economic vitality and social connection. Preservation is also an important tool for environmental sustainability. Reusing buildings conserves materials, reduces waste, and saves energy, making it a practical, climate-conscious choice. Fort Collins has had a long-standing commitment to historic preservation, thanks to a broad network of partners that have helped our city become a leader in preservation in our state. So this month and beyond, I invite everyone in Fort Collins to help us recognize, protect, and reinvest in the places that tell our full story. Because when we preserve what matters, we shape the future we want to live in. Thank you.

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Thank you, Shannon.

Thank you everyone.

Thank you everyone.

Thank you everyone.

All right, that is all the proclamations for this evening. Stay tuned for our regular city council meeting beginning at 6 p.m.

That is all the proclamations for this evening. Stay tuned for our regular City Council meeting beginning at 6 p.

! Good evening Fort Collins. The time is now 6 p.m. I call the regular meeting of the ! Fort Collins City Council to order. Please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance.

! I pledge allegiance to the Pledge of Allegiance. ! I pledge allegiance to the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the Pledge of Allegiance of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Will the Clerk please call the roll? Please call the roll.

Francis. Here. Pina Taro. Here. Nelson. Here. Hoven. Here. Paduyandi. Here. Fudge. Here. Conway. Here.

All right. We are all here tonight. We appreciate everyone who has joined us tonight, either virtually or in person. And just want to remind everyone that we are here for the same purpose, which is the future of our community, something that we all care about. Will the city manager please provide a review of today's agenda?

Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, everyone. The published agenda was amended yesterday to address an update to the language in item 15 for both the agenda item summary And also exhibit a to resolution 2026 070 and then tonight's consent calendar is going to have 13 items We do have two items on discussion both are on discussion for the purpose of allowing council members to recuse themselves So for the second reading of ordinance appropriating grant revenue to develop a new Fort Collins housing action plan Mayor Francis will recuse herself due to a conflict and then an ethics opinion from the ethics review board And this is on discussion to enable councilmember Nelson to recuse herself due to a conflict

And with that no other changes great. Thank you. We do not have any community reports tonight So will staff please play the public participation video?

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okay so we will start with marge and then terry

Hi, I am March Norskog. I live in District 2. I'm a member of the League of Women Voters of Laramette County, but I speak for myself. On April 7th, I shared a map showing 25,000 network requests for Fort Collins FLOC data in January. I had been told restrictions were added in December. However, the truth is that this change was made in February in response to community concerns. My review of the February file confirms that after February 12th, our data is no longer shared out of state. On another note, through a CORA request, I learned that the master agreement with FLOC was revised on March 9th to add in Exhibit E. I do not believe Council was informed. Exhibit E has a certification that prevents the data collected by the City FLOC equipment from being used in assisting immigration enforcement. My understanding is that city staff did not update council because they considered this update unremarkable as it is required by statute and is being added to all city contracts where personally identifiable information might be gathered. My takeaway is that Fort Collins Police and the city leaders are demonstrating a commitment to address citizen concerns as best they can without involving council. However, only council can set policy. new policy is needed because flock a alpr cameras simply collect data on every passing vehicle fort collins police say this data can be helpful in a crisis this same data is priceless to bad actors that count on us to leave this data accessible so they can grab it colorado state legislatures recently rejected passage of privacy protection bills and now protecting privacy is up to local jurisdictions. In Fort Collins, that's City Council. Only City Council has the authority to take on this challenge. Council needs to do the work to understand these tools and pass an

ordinance that effectively protects privacy. Thank you. Terry and then Ezraia. My name is Terry Pashtag and I reside in District 4. While I am a member of the League of Women Voters, I speak as a private citizen. My concern is block cameras, which I see as having an impact on our civil liberties. Personally, I would prefer that we not use this type of surveillance at all, but it feels inevitable that the monitoring will continue. I'm hoping that in the work session next week, the following concerns would be addressed. Number one, how many times has the surveillance led to information that aided police in solving crimes and what were those crimes? Number two, what have been the unintended consequences of this surveillance? And by unintended consequences, I would include individuals being falsely accused. Number three, taking into consideration that regular audits will be necessary, how much will be the full cost of this technology? And number four, there are other companies that perform the same services. Would any of these entities be more reliable in terms of protecting information from hackers and interested parties not entitled to access the information? So we watch them while they watch us. Are we overselling safety? Thank you for allowing me to speak. Thank you. Azraya, and then we'll go to Waleed.

Good evening. Do you have my slides? Excellent.

Good evening, counsel. My name is Raius Steyer. I'm from District 3.

I don't think anyone realized quite how much public outcry there would have been over the $50,000 contract when it first came in. But I think in retrospect, we all realized that approving it without going to counsel was probably a mistake. But I don't think it's been fully understood is that this was not an honest misunderstanding. It's a very deliberate strategy on Phlox Park. They have a practice of offering contracts below whatever threshold would require approval from elected officials so as to avoid immediate accountability and ensure that when it does come to council, the cameras will already be in place, which biases all decisions in favor of maintaining the status quo.

But I want to go a little bigger picture here and show this is a webinar that FLOC is offering right now for law enforcement on how to speak with city council, meeting the moment with confidence. FLOC is quite literally offering a seminar to our city staff on how to manipulate you into going against your constituents' wishes.

Now, if you can go to the next slide, please.

This is a recent post on FLOC's blog, which gives seven ideas for funding ALPR programs.

And if you read this article, you'll see that the thing that those seven funding sources have in common is that they are all funding sources that do not require going to elected officials for approval.

Now, I want to be clear with these slides. I'm not trying to say that anyone in our city necessarily use these resources or criticize them. But I'm trying to emphasize that this is a company that has no shame, no decency, that has found and will find every figure in our city's organizational structure, every loophole in our regulations, every bit of misplaced trust, and exploit them as far as it possibly can. Flock is not here because it wants to make our city safe. It is here because it wants our data, and it will take our data by whatever means it can.

Thank you.

Thank you, Walid. And then we'll go to Jeff remotely.

WALID RAMAN, DISTRICT 1. Greetings, City Council and Mayor Francis. My name is Waleed Raman, District 1. I am here today to speak in support of public safety approaches that genuinely protect our community and uphold the trust residents' place and those who serve them. My position is clear. Mass surveillance systems like ALPR networks are structurally dangerous, not because they might be misused, but because they inevitably are. By centralizing sensitive data and expanding access beyond meaningful democratic control, they turn abuse into a predictable outcome, not a preventable exception. Since 2024, at least 14 cases have surfaced of officers using ALPR systems to stalk and harass women. While we may respect our own department, this system shares data with dozens of outside agencies. Do we truly trust them all with the intimate details of our residents' movements? I do not. The risk is not limited to law enforcement. In Dunwoody, Georgia, public records show FLOC safety executives accessed the city surveillance system dozens of times, including a camera inside a community-centered gymnastics room. Another employee also accessed the same feed on multiple occasions. These were not investigations. They were corporate employees remotely watching children practice to demonstrate their products. If a private citizen did this, we would call it a crime. When a company does it, we call it public safety. The only acceptable outcome today is the immediate removal of these cameras. We must implement a surveillance oversight ordinance that puts the power back in the hands of the people, not vendors. We need a framework that bans the use of this kind of technology, not just FLOC, without the explicit approval from the citizens of Fort Collins. Until we have a legally binding framework that guarantees these protections, these cameras have no place on our streets. Thank you.

Thank you. We'll go to Jeff remotely and then Michael.

Hello, my name is Jeff Ackerman. I live in District 2.

Our Founding Fathers wrote these documents about human rights that are innate in our very being, that were given to us by our Creator, not by the documents or the Founding Fathers.

So what matters more, the words that they chose and the order that they put those words in, or the rights themselves? In Christianity, you'll often hear discussion about the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law. Let's apply that same concept to our rights in the Constitution. The Third Amendment says during times of peace, we shall not be forced to house soldiers.

What if tomorrow President Trump declared war on the Vatican? He could force us to house soldiers then? Or what if the same people that we trained in our military for years left and joined a private military corporation, and then our government hired that private military corporation. These aren't soldiers, they're employees or contractors or mercenaries, whatever you want to call them. Could we then be forced to house them?

Or what about people that aren't associated with our military, like ICE agents? They're not soldiers. Could we be forced to house ICE agents? Those scenarios perhaps follow the letter of the law of the Third Amendment, but they certainly aren't in keeping with the spirit of the law. In much the same way, Flock follows the letter of the law of the Fourth Amendment, arguably. The government doesn't own the cameras. They just pay for it from a third party and use that data. But it is such a perversion of the basic human right of the people to be secure in

their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures. We elected you to represent us and be our moral leaders. Do you feel in your heart that flock surveillance is in keeping with the spirit of the fourth amendment thank you thank you

we'll go to michael and then richard online good evening

City Attorney General. Council Member Michael Young District 1. Thank you for your time. On my way to City Hall tonight I passed at least three flock cameras and I will pass those same cameras again going home. Each of those cameras will take six to twelve pictures of my car as I pass them. Which means that thirty six to seventy two pictures will be taken of me in my car tonight just for me to be here. Now listen I know I'm pretty but I ain't thirty six to seventy two pictures pretty. In that spirit I'd like to make a few brief comments about the recent memo from Fort Collins police regarding the path forward. forward for flock cameras in our city. The memo states that the removal of flock cameras will impact the, quote, timeliness of developing investigative leads and that flock cameras have been used in over 100 cases so far, half of which resulted in arrest or citation. If we exile flock from our city, as I believe we must, it will complicate the efforts of law enforcement to solve some crimes. But are we willing, like actually willing, to give up civil liberties guaranteed by the Fourth Amendment in exchange for 50 some odd arrests and citations? cases which for all we know could have eventually been solved through traditional police work. The citizens of Fort Collins were never asked if they consented to this intrusive technology and the continued debate over autonomous surveillance in this chamber is all happening downstream of a disturbing and unprecedented breach of the public trust. Council members please understand we did not ask for this and if we are to repair the relationship between Fort Collins residents and the police officers who serve us, we must remove all automatic license plate readers from our city regardless of brand, make, or model. I for one cannot trust our police department while they wield this kind of power. Even if it comes from a desire to protect and serve, when the means are this dystopian, the intention is irrelevant. Thank you again for your time. Thank you.

We'll go to Richard online and then Trevor online.

Good evening. My name is Richard Kitchen, and I live in District 5. I'm here today as one of the co-leaders of Fort Collins Immigration Partnership Team, the IPT. The Colorado IPT is advocating that cities throughout our state stop doing business with companies that profit from ISIS enforcement, detention, and deportation actions that implicate cities in practices that contradict the values of justice and public safety. ICE has a documented history of human rights abuses, including mistreatment of immigrants in detention centers. 32 people died in ICE detention last year. The time is now to stand up for our immigrant sisters and brothers. It is written in Leviticus chapter 19, verses 33 through 34. When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself. I have shared a rough draft of a resolution with my city council member Hovind and Mayor Francis that opposes municipal contracts with companies that participate in immigration enforcement actions and detention. My request is that this council will review and consider passing this resolution. Lastly, given what we have seen ICE do in many U.S. cities, the time is right for the city of Fort Collins to take a strong stance against ICE having any presence in the city. Simply put, ICE has demonstrated through its abuses of human rights and human dignity that it cannot be alLod to operate in our city. So in addition to opposing contracts with companies that participate in immigration enforcement actions and detention, Fort Collins should take a strong stance that ICE is not welcome here. Thank you.

Thank you. We'll go to Trevor online and then Andrea online. No, Trevor. Andrea. All right, Andrea, we'll go to you next and then Casey in person.

Hey, good evening. I grew up in Fort Collins, went to Poudre High School. I've spent years building data and privacy systems at scale, and I researched tech law and AI governance. First, I went to challenge a framing that often goes unquestioned, that there's a trade-off between privacy and safety. That framing is false, and it's worth saying plainly. Community safety has more to do with making sure everyone's needs are met. Surveillance doesn't make everyone safer. For immigrant communities, activists, and others, tracking infrastructure makes them less safe.

And we already have examples of that happening, whether it's ICE covertly accessing FLOC data by using local police departments as proxies,

or officers using FLOC to stalk and harass women, which can happen across city lines. Second, the most recent memo frames this as a question of how to use FLOC, with better audits, shorter retention, stronger contracts, but for improvements, but they don't address the more fundamental question, should the city be building passive, continuous tracking infrastructure at all? license plate readers record where people go when and how often without suspicion without a warrant and without consent those concerns don't go away with the 23 day retention window instead of 30 council members i know the fourth amendment implications about searching without a warrant are well known but i also want to emphasize the first amendment harm when people know they're being tracked they change their behavior they don't attend certain meetings they may not go to certain protests or visit certain places of worship. That chilling effect on free assembly and association falls hardest on communities already most vulnerable to surveillance. When we lose free expression and install infrastructure that can be used for authoritarian purposes, we hurt our democracy. So the question shouldn't be how do we govern this better, but should we be doing this at all? Thank you.

Thank you. We'll go to Casey and then Alexander.

Casey Lepocq, District 2. I understand the perception and the attributes of mass surveillance with this type of technology for law enforcement purposes. However, with companies like Palantir, deeply embedded in many branches of our government, and hackers with too much time on their hands, this is a dangerous proposition when considering this type of technology without looking at all the variables and reflecting on honest and accurate history. A little known historical fact, IBM created early computer programs for the Third Reich to catalog and track millions of people who the Nazis put in concentration in forced labor camps.

In the middle of Berknau, what's left of the gas chambers, there are memorial plaques in 25 different languages for each nationality murdered there.

My mother was born in Ostfanschung.

For those with limited historical knowledge, it was renamed Auschwitz by the Nazis. She was 17 in February of 1941, on her way to work in the pharmacist's office when two policemen grabbed her by the arms, led her away for processing, and transported her to a foreign country for slave labor. Sound familiar?

She rolled rubberized gunpowder at 206 degrees Fahrenheit with her bare hands for four years.

On her first of three attempts to escape, she traveled 400 miles by train. by the time she got back to Ostfanchine.

There was a telegraph already waiting for her to return back to Kreiber, Germany

if she was not found, or if she was found, she would be either put in Auschwitz or shot.

What I've seen unfolding since 2015 is deeply concerning. From an early age, I learned my history from the lips of those who survived it

and what is now looming over the horizon here. I understand now more clearly than ever why history repeats itself.

What IBM created for the Nazis, the IBM technology is on steroids today.

I hope you make informed decisions and end up on the right side of history.

Thank you. Alexander, and then we'll go to Sheila.

Good evening, Council. My name is Alexander Woody.

I'm the founder of Ludega Facility Services, a minority-owned business, a small business

in Colorado, employing about 30 Coloradans. For five years, my company, Ludega, has cleaned every

single transport bus, every single night, every shift, every holiday except for Christmas Day. Although the last two years, we have done it on Christmas Day. Zero service is missed. We

performed all of the labor. We conducted all of the background checks. We executed the quality

control. We provided every single piece of equipment, every single cleaning supply.

The incumbent, I'll leave it at that and not name them out of respect,

the apparent awardee has invoiced the city for 60 consecutive months for work. Ultimately, they never performed. They have no employees at the facility. They have no site supervisor. They have no cleaning equipment, no uniforms, no vehicles, no presents at all. They simply collected approximately 60% of taxpayer funds and then paid LUDEGA 40% to do 100% of the work. This is not a bid dispute. This is a false claim under federal transit contract subject to federal transit administration oversight. The RFP explicitly required the prime to perform the work to carry workers compensation for the workers or to obtain written city consent for subcontracting. To my knowledge that didn't happen as I've learned recently. It explains why we were

told to never admit who we were or things of that nature you want to stop yeah thank you okay well I just want to submit this to the yeah yeah if you just want to come over here they can grab it from you thank you Sheila and then a little bit of Karen

yeah no Sheila all right Karen and then we'll go to rich thanks I have I have a

visual. You're not putting it up? Okay. Okay. Can we restart my time, please? I want to share with

you the insult that greeted me less than two weeks ago when I was leaving an event at Foucault MX.

As you can see, the man was perfectly comfortable walking around Old Town Fort Collins in a hoodie with a full swastika on the back. Without a second thought, a swastika. The symbol of the Nazi party responsible for the genocide of six million Jews and the murder of five million others.

In the past few days, Prime Minister Sturmer labeled anti-Semitism, quote, a crisis for us all, and said that we face, quote, a test of our moral values. This photo is evidence that Fort Collins faces a test of its moral values. Yes, anti-Semitism is a global issue. Yes, it is a Colorado issue. And I say that on the week that the man who has murdered a Holocaust survival only 60 miles from

where we are right now is set to plead guilty to 184 charges. And yes, anti-Semitism is a Fort

Collins issue. How did this happen? How did we get here? It happened when we alLod the Human

Relation Commission to ignore the Jewish community in its ceasefire resolution. It happened when CSU President Amy Parsons stayed silent as the student government adopted resolutions based on testimony of students who have no knowledge of thousands of years of anti-Semitism, no knowledge of the centuries of history of the Middle East, no knowledge of the Jews who spent years in DP camps because not a single country would open their doors after Auschwitz and the other camps were liberated. And no knowledge of the million Jews who were kicked out of Arab countries less than 100 years ago. Their only knowledge is of the lies and tropes that they learn on TikTok. It happened because CSU extension ignored pleas from the Jewish community that alLod classes

to be taught by someone who spewed anti-Semitic hate. It happened because even our beloved library unknowingly hosted an event so full of propaganda they later apologized. It happens because the city has ignored my request to talk to you about the Lyric Cinema. It's happened because calls to globalize the Antifada have come here without any of you condemning it.

We've gone from Martin Luther King said, a star scientist said, anti-Semitism is a moral evil. Thank you. It is time for Fort Collins to decide if it's going to take a moral stand. We'll go to Rich and then Al-Mani online.

Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Councillors.

Rich Stave, average citizen of Fort Collins, 80525.

The issues I talk about today are just generic.

Basically, transparency. And I was having some problems searching the city's website. The search terminology is somehow escaping me when I put it in there. I'm not getting the things that I'm looking for. I don't have much to say about flock cameras other than who gets notified and when and how. The other thing that I had an issue with is meeting notices. I used to get a meeting notice through email, and I no longer get a meeting notice through email. The last issue I'll talk about is art in public places. And in particular, I'm talking about harmony in college. It's really a conundrum because it's a hazard for pedestrians and bicycles and drivers alike. There are broken baluster bases, and I know that there was a recent court case where people took it upon themselves to not take care of it, and people tripped and fell. In this case, they would fall right into a traffic lane. There's also balusters that look like they're broken, but they're not being identified and taken care of. It looks like somebody's tearing them off, maybe to turn them in for recycle credit. There's a problem with visibility in terms of where art in public places and planters. You can come on the intersection, cars are whipping by. It'll be very easy for somebody to step right in the path of a speeding vehicle. when they make a right-hand turn I don't know what the what the speed limit is but I feel like they only slow down a little bit thank you very much thank you go to Amani online and then Spencer

Monterey Park. I'm Malmone and live in District 2. I'm here to address claims of harassment and doxing that were made at the last council meeting by a CSU student. Allegations like these are serious and deserve careful consideration. I'm speaking tonight because it's important to me that council members and the general public know that those accusations were found to be meritless by the CSU administration. A few weeks ago that same woman made several inflammatory statements about Jewish people at a meeting held by the CSU Senate, where they discussed whether the university should cut ties with Israeli companies. It was at that meeting where she claimed that Israelis are harvesting the organs of Palestinians, a terrible and disgusting lie. You will also hear this student comparing Jewish students, her classmates, to Nazis. Her comments went viral online because they were inflammatory, incited hate, and she trafficked in two anti-Semitic tropes, the blood libel and Holocaust inversion. I strongly encourage council members to Google the publicly available recording of that Senate meeting on YouTube. I can't share her entire testimony here because the first two minutes of it are riddled with profanities. Here is her testimony. And if you want to talk about

the returning of hostages, let's talk about the returning of Palestinian bodies to people and

to families in Palestine whose bodies are brutally mutilated. I don't know if you've seen that. Bodies coming home, people coming home without organs.

You know, Israel has the largest skin bank in the world. I wonder where they got that skin from. Absolutely reprehensible. I'm here, like I said, as a person with basic, basic morals. And my morals tell me, as they should all tell you, and especially the people who thought clapping for Rams for Israel is okay, because that's literally a Nazi group. Like, that's crazy. They are the ones who perpetrate some of the most hate on this campus. alongside TPSA. Vote yes. Only clear for resolution. We want to have ethical time.

Thank you. All right, we'll go to Spencer and then Ryan.

Hi, I'm Spencer, District 5 with Northern Colorado Privacy Coalition. And I have a background in tech, specifically relating to open source software and media storage. And on those grounds, I'd like to talk about how you can trust a technology. So the first and best way is you can inspect the hardware and read the code. Many things fall short of this, but the next best thing is to have a third-party audit by a neutral party. And probably the worst way is to go off a company's reputation alone. Not to mention, in the case of Flock, they don't even have the reputation at this point, frankly. So given the three options, or four options, that the policeman would discuss, I can't help but think of the first three as basically doing nothing since there's no way we can know what

that flock is complying with any regulations or settings. Effectively, we have black boxes with

a camera attached to them, piping data to who knows where, and we can't validate anything there.

We can't know if they're complying with us. I mean, we can tell what the police see in the control panel, but that's not the same as whatever they're doing behind the scenes, right?

Right. Like the data can be just copied anywhere. It can go anywhere. It's off in the cloud somewhere. We can't, we don't know. Right. There's like no, there's no trail. Anything could be happening to it.

So I think to even really consider many regulations,

we at least need like third party audits by a neutral party to make sure that they are following our rules. And as for the law enforcement training webinar they have, if anyone ends up attending,

I'd love to see the cliff notes from that. Thank you. Thank you. Go to Ryan and then Greg online.

Hi, I am a member of the Disability Advisory Board, but I am here solely in my capacity as an individual resident of the community, specifically District 3. I want to bring attention to a recent news article that described multiple Coloradans' experience with repeatedly being approached and detained by police officers for suspected criminal activity due to their license plates being matched to a hot list entry, which was incorrectly input by police officers in other parts of the state. because the entry themselves were made incorrectly the cameras identified their license plates leading to them being pulled over uh kyle dosman was one being repeatedly pulled over by cherry hills village police department sarah judson boulder county sheriff's office and katie rothman being pulled over by jefferson county sheriff's office specifically all three of these police officer police departments or sheriff's offices are ones that fort collins police services currently have an active sharing agreement with through the flock system and so while we've heard repeatedly from the police department that the flock system is safe because there is a very you know small sharing agreement set up all three of these instances have come from departments that we are for Collins Police Services have an active sharing agreement with ultimately what this causes is these folks are de facto not welcome in our community and so I think that by employing these lock cameras and continuing to rely on a system that relies on accurate data entry we're allowing folks to not be welcome in our community

Thank you. We'll go to Greg online and then Mike online as well. Greg, go ahead.

Good evening, council. My name is Greg Zoda. I'm a resident of District 1. Some of you may know me from my role as a legislative aide for one of our state house members, but tonight I'm exclusively speaking on my own behalf. As community concerns over ALPR technology have grown over the past year,

I've heard the council members express some interest in the protecting everyone from excessive

Policing or Excessive Police Surveillance Act or PEAPS Act as a way to balance community safety with individual liberty. As someone with a uniquely close relationship to the stakeholding process for the PEAPS Act, I wanted to share my own perspective on the bill, its opposition, and how the bill's failure impacts the FCPS memo that you'll be discussing next week. The PEAPS Act was a moderate bipartisan bill that aimed to compromise so heavily that many of the advocates in the council chambers tonight, understandably distrusted it. Framed as a way to alleviate community fears of excessive surveillance while still providing access to ALPR tech, this was far from some socialist abolitionist pipe dream. It was an explicitly pro-police, pro-ALPR measure designed to essentially prevent public pressure from a complete cancellation of these contracts. Upon its introduction in February, the bill required LEOs to receive a warrant to use ALPR databases, established procedures for logging which officers had accessed it, prohibited commercial sale of private info collected by ALPRs, and set a data retention policy of 30 days. Already, it included a number of exceptions to these. It exempted all data that was older than 24 hours. That later increased to 72 hours. It created a voluntary consent exceptions. It created exigent circumstances exceptions. It exempted tolls, parking, and traffic enforcement. And the data retention policy was eventually extended even further. Despite these concessions, the bill received substantial opposition from ALPR industry leaders, law enforcement, district attorneys, and more. Representatives of law enforcement said that any warrant requirement was unworkable. A lobbyist for Axon said the bill would set policing back 50 years and threatened to go over the head of local council members if they tried to support the bill.

Thank you. Next, we'll go to Mike and then Fred. No Mike. Fred, you want to come on down? and then we'll go to Kimberly.

Good evening, Fred Kirsch for Collins, speaking for Community for Sustainable Energy. I'm here tonight to talk about the Our Climate Future work session last week. First, I'd like to thank Jacob and the council for recognizing the importance of direct questions and direct answers. I think we still have some work to do in that regard, but it was really nice to see some recognition of that. I especially want to thank Emily, Chris, Josh, and Melanie for asking very direct questions. Mayor, you got extra points for picking up the rebound and taking the follow-up shot when talking about the low-income efficiency performance metrics. You made sure that Jacob knew that you expected concrete data and analysis. For you new council members, that's a great example to follow. Chris, thanks for asking directly about working with the CEO on solar. You got probably the most, if maybe not the only, direct answer of the night. but it did beg a follow-up. When Brian says no we don't work with the CEO on solar you got to ask will you reach out to them now and you may have to even catch another rebound do another shot by saying that you'd like to see a memo on the follow-up in the conversation with the CEO. You all have to provide clear and unequivocal direction to staff and then follow up. We've seen in the past too many times where council direction has gotten lost and forgotten about. Melanie and Julie thank you for asking about the 24 funding decisions. Apparently that question needed to be phrased a little bit more specifically about why utility carts and rec center lights were chosen. Jacob focused instead on the manufactured home efficiency program, which is one of the most cost effective proposals of 24, while also achieving equity and adaptation big moves. Seaports first advocated for that program in 2016. That program is not under question, so why did he choose to focus on that instead of the utility carts and rec centers? Now, I don't want to get stuck in the past, but it's important to know what drove those decisions to understand how to drive the decisions in the future Josh I think you and Chris and Melanie made it clear that you want cost-effectiveness to be one of the primary metrics moving forward thank you for doing a great job and making it

clear and clear direction to staff thank you Kimberly and then move it to Tyler

Kimberly Connor on the Human Services and Housing Funding Board but not speaking for the board at this time today I've come to show my support for limiting mass surveillance I understand why people like the idea of surveillance. I myself previously had a home security system, but do not feel comfortable with a similar one now. Why? Because it was connected to an online platform, and anything connected through the cloud is inherently unsecure, including surveillance used by our city. Now, I'm sure people in city council or the local police don't intend to misuse city surveillance, but the security of any system is determined by every individual, company, or government with access. Your intentions might be fine, but that does not determine how that data is used. Just this March, I read a headline that really drove the misuse of surveillance home. Iran built a vast camera network to control the scent, and Israel used it to track targets. Now, do I expect this to happen in Fort Collins? Not really. But that is the world we live in. It is our current reality, where governments use surveillance against their own people, and that same surveillance is also hacked and used against them. That is where we are right now. Think about what this means for the future if we don't start limiting surveillance today. I understand that systems like FLOC have been used to solve crimes, but that use is reactive in nature. The rapes and murders still happen, and there are always other forms of evidence helping to determine the culprit. Surveillance is not some magic tool that prevents all crimes. It is one tool among many, a tool that is easily abused. It might be too late to put everything surveillance related back in the box, but at least our community should be given the chance to determine which boxes will open next, if they should even be opened at all. Thank you. And as always, all officials with the ability to affect or enforce laws and policies should be actively speaking against war crimes funded by or committed by our government. If you are not, you have no place in determining how surveillance is used in our community. Free Palace 9.

Thank you. We'll go to Tyler and then Tyler number two next.

Tippecanoe. My name is Tyler Davidson, District 5. I have spoken here on many occasions about flock cameras and apparently many, many people have flocked to this issue. You'll forgive the pun. I have yet to hear anyone speaking in favor of mass surveillance to City Council. I don't know that there is any issue that has created such widespread ire across nearly all political persuasions in American life. It absolutely amazes me. Something from the headlines here. Oshkosh, Wisconsin approved a flock contract. And then less than 24 hours later, when it was discovered that the representative for Flock lied to them about whether heat maps were an available feature, they voted to rescind the contract outright. So Flock itself is comically bad in so many ways. But I think everyone here has been very eloquent in discussing how dangerous this is to a free society. And I want to add my voice to that. Again, I see it as your duty as council members to protect our civil and constitutional rights. And I don't know of any issue that has reached out and been such a particular threat to our constitutional rights as this one. Finally, in closing, I would like to thank Chris Conway for meeting with myself and my compatriots on this issue for an hour yesterday. afternoon. It is wonderful to be heard. It is wonderful to be listened to. And I trust you all to make the best decision on behalf of all of us. Thank you. Thank you. Tyler, and then we'll go to

Daniel. Good evening. My name is Tyler Bigler, President of District 6 and member of Strong Towns Fort Collins. I want to follow up on the a couple of the road capital projects discussed at last week's work session because I think we owe it to ourselves to be honest about what these projects actually are. Both projects are, it's Trilby and, I'm sorry, Taft Hill and College and both projects are framed under a Vision Zero umbrella, but Vision Zero is a specific framework with specific commitments. The Vision Zero network's own core elements call for reducing travel lanes, Loring design... The Vision Zero network's own core elements call for reducing travel lanes, Loring design speeds, and cutting vehicle miles traveled. ! Taft Hill does the opposite of all three. Adding sidewalks and bike paths to widened arterial arterial ! Or a strode. ! It doesn't make it a Vision Zero project. It just means we built a wider road with sidewalks next to it. At their core, these are road widening projects. More travel lanes, more turn lanes, and pork chop islands are not modern safety features. They are old school traffic engineering. They move cars faster, they lengthen pedestrian crossing distances, and they create the exact conditions that produce the most severe crashes. and they create the exact conditions that produce the most severe crashes. We should also be skeptical of the greenhouse gas reduction framing. Part of the Taft Hill funding comes from climate-related sources, but the core action is adding vehicle capacity to or creating an arterial. Decades of research on Induce a Man tells us that widening roads generates more driving and emissions, not less. We cannot credibly widen a road and call it a climate project. Four-lane arterials are among the most dangerous road configurations we build in this country. Not because four lanes are inherently bad, but because arterials try to do two incompatible things at once. Move vehicles at high speeds while also providing access to homes, businesses, and side streets. That combination of speed and access is what makes them dangerous. They are the futon of roads. Yet our master street plan is still calling for more of them. I'm not asking you to kill these projects. Some of them are already underway. I'm asking for three things. First, thank you. Thank you. You can always email your comments.

Daniel? Good afternoon. I'm Daniel. I borrow from District 2, and I'm also part of the Northern Colorado Privacy Coalition. For months now, you all have been hearing about various issues regarding flock and surveillance. And even today, many people have given you more information about the company, the misuses, and the opposition against this mass surveillance issue. Fort Collins Police Services released a memorandum detailing four options they will be presenting to you next week. I would like to ask why is it being presented as if these four options are the only way to move forward, especially since two of them keep Flock and one does not prohibit Flock from trying again. If they realize that trust needs to be rebuilt after the blatant mistake of installing the system without public comment, why are we not leaving a more open-ended discussion with these options for the public. The only way we can get our voices heard are through today's public comment and through City Council asking questions to Fort Collins Police Services based on info they receive from people in the corresponding districts. And I do not feel that every question we have today will be answered next week. And I'm sure next week will also bring many more questions. I know no decision will come today or next week, but the people became a beta test of this surveillance program through no consent of their own. And the people are being told to accept the thoughts of the system regardless of how much it can affect their lives. Continuing the system will no longer have the trust of the people. Starting anew alongside the voice of the people is the only way going forward. Thank you.

Thank you. That is everyone we have signed up tonight for public comment. Yes, sir.

I wasn't able to find the app on here to get in.

Oh, okay. You can come on down. You'll have two minutes just say your name and your general address

Yeah, hi, my name is Shannon blazes. I'm a longtime resident. I was 30 years I want a house 80 80525 I Went to the working group about the energy and I wanted to commend you guys for actually asking hard questions about What are the what's the actual goals and what are the metrics by which we're going to get this new energy? But I also at the same time I my councilman I contact and I said look How long are people really going to put up with this? For years, 10 years ago, I said, you guys are going to drive up my energy costs because the houses in our neighborhood are not built to the standard for the efficiencies that you're dreaming of in your cubicles. Long quick story short, I said my energy bill in the winter because I'm electric heat is going to be $800. Well, January it was $900. So reality is hit. So people are going to get fed up with this. So 23 years in the military, I've learned a long time ago, you don't come with a problem or complain about a problem without having a solution. So my solution is, first thing for the metrics is create an app so that everybody can see what the energy is. I drove out there, we looked at the solar fields, half of the solar panels aren't even working. I counted over 160 panel sections, not panels, sections, that were flipped over the other way because the motors weren't working. We could easily make an app and see how much energy is actually being produced. The second thing is there's going to be a large push for natural gas in this country to be exported to Southeast Asia and to Europe. This is a win-win-win that's going to happen. We should embrace that, use natural gas, but more importantly, use the fracking system and make a working group to look into geothermal. There's projects that are making 150 megawatts over in Utah. right now you have all of that infrastructure right out here for the making if you did that you would be able to Lor the cost of energy bring into businesses uh uh look at look at all the big businesses that have been driven out hewlett-packard uh cisco systems you know thank

you all right that is everyone we have signed up for public comment and so we will now close public comment does anyone on council have any follow-up to public comment i'll just start to remind everyone that we do have a work session on flock and ALPR sorry next Tuesday where council will be giving directions on next steps so there will be no decision made next Tuesday but just wanted everyone at home and in

chambers to know anyone else because member pot yandy thank you mayor I just wanted to double check it it looked like mr. Woody's document made it to the city manager or okay and and staff will be reviewing that thank you so much anyone

Anyone else? Yeah, Councilmember Fox.

Thank you. Can we just check into the issue perhaps that Mr. Stave, I'm sorry if that's not how you pronounce your last name, mentioned about the email subscription working, whether that's change or, you know, what issues there might be with that?

Yeah, I can actually address that right now. So that was one of those custom applications that we had had under our old website that It did not come over as part of functionality with a new website. So it does rely on people going to the website rather than having information emailed to them.

Thank you. Thank you. And then if we can just look into the issue that was mentioned about the intersection of college and Harmony, whether there are any safety concerns there with the art installation, I would appreciate that. Thank you. We will do that.

Anyone else? Alright seeing oh

I was just gonna thank everybody for coming out tonight and sharing all of your thoughts and concerns on the wonderful snowy night So it's greatly appreciated. Thank you

All right Does anyone on council wish to pull any consent calendar items for individual discussion? All right seeing none is there a motion to approve the items on the consent calendar? Yeah, I move approval of the consent calendar items 1 through 13 I'll second I have a motion by mayor pro tem and a second by councilmember Nelson any further discussion Yeah, councilmember home. I just want to

make a point to say that for number nine with the The the new software the parking software that I'm moving forward with it because it has absolutely nothing to do with our upcoming Decision regarding downtown parking it'll just make everybody's lives residents who are trying to purchase their permits and it's an outdated 20 year old system so that's why just to reassure everybody has nothing to do with downtown parking great clarification

any other discussion all right see none will a clerk please call the roll

Conway yes Francis yes Pinotero yes Nelson yes Hovind yes Yes. Fudge. Yes.

All right. That passes 7-0. Do council members have any comment on the consent calendar? I see none. We have no staff reports tonight, so we'll move on to council member reports. Before I hand it over to council, I did want to say that as Tyler Maher's last meeting with the city, after 11 years, Tyler started here as a management assistant and has moved into his role and will be leaving us next week and so just wanted to say thank you for the service to our city you're one of the most professional dedicated and like a little people I've ever met so thank you so much we can suspend the rules so we can clap thank you any other councilmember reports

councilman yeah thank you mayor and this is gonna sound like a real downer after for appreciating a great staff member. But I've never done this with my council report. I've just had two different resident communications recently from folks who are concerned about use of e-motorcycles among our middle school students. It seems like those kinds of vehicles are really proliferating in that 12 to 14-year-old age group. And these are, we're not talking e-bikes. These are the ones that look like mini motorcycles, drive like mini motorcycles, that can go 30 to 40 miles per hour. So if you're a parent of a middle schooler or live in a neighborhood where you're seeing those out and about, you have to have a driver's license for those. You have to have insurance. Recently, out of state, there was a gentleman who was killed by a 14-year-old on an e-motor cycle. So it's becoming a bigger issue, and I would like to assume a lot of parents who are purchasing these aren't realizing the potential safety repercussions for their children and other people in the community. So just wanted to put that PSA out there.

Thank you. Council Member Fudge.

I'll give some other staff members a shout out. Today I got to introduce our project before the commission that determines how energy and mineral impact fund grants are allocated through the State Department of Local Affairs. Fortunately, I had to speak for about 10 seconds. but Mandy Rasmussen and Carrie Ishmael spoke and actually answered questions in person for the commission. They were very well prepared and did a great job answering those questions, so I want to give them a shout-out as well.

Great, thank you. Council Member Hope?

I recently participated in one of the fair housing focus groups that's being held throughout the community, and I gained so much insight specifically from mobile home park residents, and at some point I look forward to getting an update regarding the certification the property management certification process and the continuing education program because it was really insightful some of the feedback and I just want to wish all the CSU students good luck with all of their finals that are coming up this week or next week so thanks councilmember Nelson

we're just we all have reports tonight so I am the liaison to the air quality board, Air Quality Advisory Board, and I met with the chair today. And this is not one of the four proclamations that you made today, Mayor, but it is also Air Quality Awareness Week. And as a part of that, there is a wildfire smoke readiness workshop in that room tomorrow. So if you're not joining us for our ad hoc committee,

extravaganza, you can learn about wildfire smoke readiness. And there is a registration, You have to find the website, but it is very easy, and I was able to do so. So that should be a testament to how easy it is to sign up. And again, these are not always the most fun things to think about, but certainly something that's worthwhile. So I just wanted to give a shout-out for that. Thank you.

Thank you. Councilmember Faiyani? All right, I'm coming back. I wanted to quickly just shout-out that it is Teacher Appreciation Week. So for those of you who have teachers in your lives like councilmember Conway Happy teacher appreciation week. I also wanted to shout out our food to fire authority And all of the agencies that responded to the ponds fire that is not in my district I think that's in councilmember Hoeven's district, but that was an incredible very quick response to a very alarming situation and all structures received but it was definitely too close for comfort so thank you to all the folks who got that fire under control and protect people's

protected people's homes anyone else yes cancer sorry we will all speak no I there's been quite a few things going on I've been very privileged to have the chance to speak to a few classes both that front range as well as CSU recently. Love seeing people get involved in politics early, asking great questions. And then I did want to call out, I was invited to join the Shepherds and bike bus a couple of weeks ago, which was so much fun. And this is where adults, ones at the beginning has rock music playing very early in the morning and it goes around the neighborhood and picks up kids on bikes to drop them off at the elementary school. I also saw on Instagram, like this is happening all over the country so if you have a chance to join one they're a lot of fun

thank you anyone else I'm sorry I'm I'm pulling a councilmember patiandi um I am doing a flock demo tomorrow so I just want to let everybody know that the information that you've been sharing I will take that into consideration during

the demo tomorrow thanks thank you yeah much now we have a few council members doing that so all right anyone else okay see none we will move on to our discussion items I am actually recusing myself for discussion item 14 and I will

come back for the next one okay so we'll move to item number 14 is there a

presentation for this item there is not again it was pulled just for mayor Francis recuse herself we do have staff available answer questions if needed

okay and just for the public's knowledge this is for a second reading of a supplemental appropriation for a dola grant is would any of the members of the public public like to

I'm not really sure what the purpose of this grant is going to be it going to be it seems like if i read it correctly it says someone's going to be charged with the Aly with the identification of what affordability means for the citizens of Fort Collins. I'm not really sure I know what that means myself. I don't know that I've ever seen something defined in such a manner. I hear a lot of people talk about it. A lot of people talk a lot of time about it, but I really don't know what that means. There's no hard numbers that say exactly what affordability means. There's no hard examples that say, here's the demographic that we're aiming for. As far as I know, as long as I've been here, which is, you know, almost half a century, I think, at this point, is just there have always been people coming to Fort Collins. Fort Collins is multiple times the size it was when I got here. And if those people can't find affordability, I'm not sure I understand what's really going on, and I don't really understand why we have to come up with another position to figure out what affordability really means. But I guess you guys got the money. You're going to spend it. Good luck with that. Thank you. Any other members of the public? Yes.

again shannon blazes 80525 uh yeah you're right uh affordability is the issue what is affordability when i moved here i was a sergeant in the military and i easily raised my kid and paid for a house but look at the prices of the homes today nobody's going to do it you talk about this the the trailer parks and you're going to put all this money to green up trailer parks. I built them when I was in college. It's an easy solution. If you can tell me as a homeowner

there's 40,000 homes in town that I have to put high shingles on my house, raise the price of the value of my house by putting these impact resistant shingles and then on the top of it pay the extra cost to put them in and the insurance as well, you can make an easy solution for the

trailer parks. Canadian standards. All you have to do is make any trailer park coming in new is going to be built to Canadian standards. That's R30 insured, insulation, double-paned windows, and your problem is solved. And you're not pissing money away because of affordability, because there's some people that cannot afford to be here. Like Rich said, there's people that come and go, and there's some that are very wealthy and some that are very poor. But are we to accommodate to just one class or at the expense of everybody that's lived here for 30 years and paid the bills and built the town that you live in that's what i got to say okay thank you

any other public comment on this item okay we will close public comment um i will say um this grant is actually to help us uh use the money to write the housing it is the housing action plan which as a requirement from a state SB 24-174 is to write this plan so that we can be eligible for grant money. Is that, did I state that correctly? Yes, you did. Okay, great. Is there any other follow-up to public comment on this one? Do I hear a motion or do you want to follow up?

I'll follow up first. Sorry. I just hope that based on the comments that we had about the standards for mobile homes that perhaps we can our ad hoc committee on housing can look at that I know they're looking at a bunch of standards so if that's a possibility I hope they'll they'll

take a look at that so that ends my comment okay great thank you any other comment on this item okay do I hear a motion

I move to adopt on second reading ordinance number 045 2026 making a supplemental appropriation of Colorado Department of Local Affairs grant revenue to develop a new Fort

Collins Housing Action Plan second all right that's motion by councilmember Fudge and second by councilmember Patiandi can you please do the vote

Fran oh France is not here Pina Taro yes Nelson yes Holman yes Patiandi yes

Fudge yes Conway yes I'm sorry that motion passed I forgot I had more to say that motion passes six to zero and with that we will wait for the mayor to

come back all right we are on to item number 15 which is the resolution accepting and adopted adopting an ethics opinion is there anyone who would like

recuse themselves. I am recusing myself because this is an ethics review board opinion about me that I initiated and involves my job. Great, thank you. Is there

a staff presentation for this item? No staff presentation. Again, we do have staff

available to answer questions. Thank you. Any members of the public like to speak on this item? Rich, go ahead.

Rich Stave, Average Citizen of Fort Collins, 80525. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Counselors. I tried to read through all of the information here, and I got about as lost as anyone could ever be. Lots of things are written down, but it may need a decipherer for me to understand it completely. When I thought about it, though, I thought, well, years ago, counselors got a stipend that was very small. But then the voters changed that around and said they're going to pay them. So my question would be, now we've got someone that basically, if they're a slave to two masters, which one wins? So if they're getting paid from the city coffers in a multiple, at least one or more different ways, how's that supposed to work out? Another thing was when I looked at the counselor and I looked at their website this afternoon, they're listed as one of the leaders of the business. So if they're leader of a business that's kind of taken Fort Collins funds, that's an interesting scenario. There's other elements of the extended nature.

There's family connections, you know, size of the business, purpose of the business, and the relationships thereof.

the question that usually comes up is what does transparency mean when you're

talking about situations that overlap with the duties that they have as a counselor and the duties that they have as a business leader and the legal

aspect just as a as a mire something I don't know how you get to the bottom of

all that but appreciate that thank you thank you yes go ahead

me again uh ethics in america i needed to get a credit for uh another one of my little pieces of paper on the wall so i took a clep test in the military called ethics in america and it's pretty plain and simple if you're a sitting member i was here that you guys didn't get paid anything it was just a stipend but then you voted in your guys's self a salary well that's great i don't have a problem you guys are doing great work for the city you're doing your job but if you have a conflict of interest in other words you have a business that's doing contract work with the city you don't just recuse yourself you just give the money back in this product the ethics is taken care of thank you all

right anyone else seeing none do council members have any comments or questions

come over pottyani thank you mayor I just wanted to appreciate that council member Nelson requested this review. As folks have pointed out, it could have been a sticky situation and I think it was really professional of her to ask for us to review her case. We had three pretty lengthy meetings to discuss all of the ins and outs of the circumstances of Ann's employment as an architect and her role on council. And I feel comfortable with the outcome that we came to um and presented to us some very clear commitments to how she was going to balance both roles and make sure that things are legal and ethical um so it was a it was a long process but i think worthwhile to make sure that we are being responsible with uh with our roles and that council member nelson has a really clear idea of how to move forward um and i do have faith That if true conflicts of interest ever do come up that she will recuse herself appropriately

Thank you any other comments

member hope thank you. I'll just second that as a new person to the whole process I really appreciated the in-depth questions and Conversation that we had and I agree with councilmember patiandi that I think we're all very clear and and specifically councilmember Nelson on the next steps to take so it was a very

helpful process thank you great anyone else I just want to thank the members of the ethics review board for doing this three meetings it was very long lots of material good conversation thoughtful and deliberative so thank you to councilmember pot yandi Hovind and mayor pro tem for doing that so with that is their resolution or is there a motion for the resolution yeah I move approval

resolution 2026-070 accepting and adopting ethics opinion number 2026-01 of the ethics review board advising council member ann nelson in response to her request for an advisory opinion

second we have a motion by the mayor pretend a second by council member patyandi any further discussion seeing none will the clerk please call the roll hoban yes patyandi yes fudge yes conway yes Francis yes Pinotero yes that passes six zero we are on to other business do council members have any other business to come before council seeing you that brings us to the end of the meeting we will adjourn there oh would you like me to get councilmember Nelson back in just to the journey so okay yes okay she had extra business did you have okay thank you all right we will adjourn good night for columns

Good night. Thank you.