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TL;DR
The council approved a series of substantive actions—including the Senior Village financing, waste‑collection franchise awards, and a tree memorial—while advancing community engagement initiatives such as the human trafficking worker‑center proposal and transit feasibility studies.
- Council approves Senior Village financing (item 4A) – motion carried 5‑025:31
- Staff presents community events and library programming26:31
- Recreation & Community Services presentation on parks survey and egg hunt35:21
- Los Angeles County human‑trafficking worker‑center proposal presented41:41
- San Gabriel Valley transit feasibility study presented73:09
- Discussion on migrant‑worker center partnership and letter to County Supervisor66:53
- Council votes to award Ware Disposal residential franchise (three‑card system)255:55
- Council approves $60,000 consultant allocation for Measure BB analysis258:47
- Motion to establish memorial tree for Lani and Hans Liang carried unanimously275:40
- Motion to direct staff to develop Business Attraction Program carried unanimously281:42
Summary
The meeting focused on several key policy decisions and community‑service initiatives. The council approved the financing for the Monterey Park Senior Village (item 4A) with a unanimous vote and extended the meeting to 11:30 p.m. [minutes]. Staff presentations covered a range of civic programs, from the National Library Week and community clean‑ups to the Los Angeles County human‑trafficking worker‑center proposal and the San Gabriel Valley transit feasibility study; these were discussed but not voted on [transcript]. The council then moved to waste‑collection franchise matters, ultimately awarding a three‑card residential contract to Ware Disposal and approving a $60,000 consultant allocation for Measure BB analysis [mixed]. A unanimous motion established a memorial tree for Lani and Hans Liang, and staff was directed to develop a Business Attraction Program [minutes]. Throughout the session, council members engaged in public comment, with residents and business owners expressing support for Athens Services or Ware Disposal and voicing concerns about cost and service quality [transcript].
Transcript
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Welcome everyone to our rescheduled meeting for the city council tonight. We don't usually meet on a Tuesday, so appreciate everyone coming out. We will start with the Honor Guard. If you can all join me for the presentation of the colors.
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I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Thank you to our police explorers and I'd like to thank our civic superstar for tonight, Alice Zhou, for leading us in the pledge of allegiance. If the council members can join me out in front of the dace to present a little certificate.
that we'll be in the summer. Thank you.
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We'll start off the meeting as well with our land acknowledgement. We'd like to acknowledge that the land we inhabit today was once known as the Tovangaar, the home of the Gabriolito Tongva people. We show our respect to the Gabriolito Tongva people, as well as all indigenous people, past, present, and future, and honor their labor as original caretakers of this land. We commit to uplifting the Gabriolito Tongva people, invite you to acknowledge the history, and join us in caring for this land. Again, welcome to our council meeting tonight. We'll have the clerk do the roll call. Thank you, Mayor.
City clerk, Michelle Yee, she's not available today,
and she apologized for not being here. Council Member Sanchez?
Present.
Council Member Lo? Present. Council Member Yu? Here. Mayor Potempo?
Present. Mayor Wong?
Here.
We have a quorum. Thank you.
Thank you. Any agenda additions, deletions, changes, adoptions? No, Mayor. All right. We will move to public communication.
Yeah.
All right. Sorry. There's not a change necessarily, but there is a request to consider moving up item 4A. It's the public hearing item.
if Council chooses to do so.
Any objections to the change? All right, so we'll take that up after public communication then. All right. We'll go ahead if there are how many? Cindy, do you know how many speakers there are?
There are only one speaker for public communication.
Okay, go ahead.
Thank you. Gregory Moss?
City Council members good evening good evening to Monterey Park the reason I'm here is that I attended the meet the mayor meeting last night at the Bella Vista Monterey School and during the time the mayor mentioned about some ideas for development in some of the areas of the city which I guess are some vacant office spaces in Saturn and also what they would corporate center. If I understood correctly, that's what the mayor was asking for some suggestions. So I had some ideas that came to me last night, I thought that maybe be worth considering if you haven't already considered them. One of them might be contacting USC and asking them if they would be interested in some land space for some research, for laboratory work,
Maybe they want to have an outpatient facility available to them. USC is really kind of spread out a lot in the San Gabriel Valley.
They have a facility in downtown L.A. They have facilities in Arcadia. They're building a large facility on Fair Oaks in Pasadena.
And I think also in Verdugo Hospital, Hills Hospital, they're up there as well, I believe, and maybe some other places. And then, of course, they have their main campus over in San Pablo. So perhaps with their expansions, maybe they're looking for some more space. I don't know, but that was one idea that I had. Some of the studios like Disney, Warner Brothers, perhaps Universal Studios,
maybe they're looking for some facilities, store their prop equipment, maybe some high-tech development in an off-site area that might be of some benefit to them. I don't know. Maybe it would be beneficial for them if they had their facilities out here, so if they wanted to do any filming in the San Gabriel area,
they would have their costumes and props and things like that that would be available to them also.
And also, too, an area in North Carolina called the Triangle, that was originally called the Research Triangle, was developed in the 1950s, and it's supported by Raleigh-Durham and the city of Chapel Hill, I believe.
And they work together with, I think, the university there, and they have a number of high-tech companies that are there. I'm not sure which all the companies are that are located out there.
Maybe something with the police department. Maybe they need some more space or something that they could use, auxiliary offices out there.
was another idea. The one thing that I would suggest not doing is considering warehousing. Last year, warehousing development
has actually been on the decrease. Not sure what's driving that. But if you build a facility, or even if, say, like Amazon or Google
or some other place were to build a warehouse there, even if they pay for it, if they decide to abandon a project, who's going to pick up the tab for that? Who would be responsible for maintaining the building if the tenant's not going to move in. As I'm sure you're well aware, over at the corner of Atlantic and Garvey, the northeast corner, we have that, well, it was supposed to be a Starbucks building. It's built there. It's been sitting there empty for years. So you kind of get an idea what happens when there's businesses being developed but not following through like it should be. You could be stuck with a building that now the city would have to maintain. So basically that was just sort of the some of the ideas I had I think probably something in Director of Technology. You know, would be a green initiative idea where you're not having something that's producing what we prefer to as dirty pollution and so on. And also, too, depending on whether the building should be raised or just simply remodeled or combined together or something like that, you have an opportunity to develop a lot of solar panels out there or maybe look to developing this with using of solar energy. You know, I don't know how much solar energy cities across the country use, but I don't know how much solar energy cities across the country use, but I don't know how much solar energy cities across the country use. but if there's a chance to building a lot of solar power out there, Monterey Park could be considered a city that's really getting into the solar power thing. Or, well, I don't know if you could put wind turbines there. So that would be something else to consider along with that, I think. And sort of lastly, any development like over in the Saturn area probably needs a lot of input from the residents there. It's a really nice area, Monterey Park. I mean, Monterey Park is generally all a nice area to begin with. but I've met a few of the people that live over there. They have very nice homes, as I'm sure you're well aware of. They maintain their properties, and so any kind of development certainly would have to be from their input as well as what they would find acceptable to theirs. So that's basically all I had to say on that subject. Thank you. Any other speakers? No other speakers. I just heard my...
Andrew? Yes.
You want to speak on? Just for a general comment. Okay, sorry. Please.
Hi, good evening.
Mayor Thomas Wong and Mariette Park City Council.
My name is Andrew Yip.
I'm an Army veteran, community member, and a member of the SGV Sanguva Valley Progressive Action. I approach you today with a pressing humanitarian issue,
the ongoing genocide in Gaza. The indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas has led to untold
suffering. The self-immolation of U.S. Airman Aaron Bushnell in protests against Israel's actions and the lack of response from our leaders in Washington, which includes our local electeds, including our congressional representatives, serves as a tragic reminder to the death of despair felt by many Americans as we watch for the past few months on what's unfolding in Gaza. As expressed by my fellow Veterans for Peace member Dennis Fritz, Aaron died for the sins of our Congress and the Biden administration with over 14,000 children among the more than 32,000 and counting casualties in Gaza. In the blockade hindering aid, the situation is dire as UNICEF and the UN assessments point to an imminent risk of death from starvation for over 1.1 million Palestinians. Monterey Park, where Asians make up 65.6% of the population, is keenly aware of the situation in Gaza. Recent surveys have shown that many Asian American and Pacific Islander community members believe the U.S. stance on Palestine is out of alignment, with a significant number advocating for a permanent ceasefire. Numerous members of our community belong to ethnic diasporas that have been shaped and forced to flee their home countries by genocide, war, and violence, adding depth to our understanding and empathy for the people of Gaza. Given the lack of action by our congressional representatives, as we look to our city councils, cities like Pasadena, Montebello, and most recently, as of last night, Alhambra, who have passed ceasefire resolutions. It's crucial for Monterey Park to join this call. We urge the council to direct staff to draft a resolution advocating for a ceasefire and to review the resolutions passed by Alhambra and Montebello for extra guidance. And we are more than happy to support and advise. taking this step will demonstrate Mario Parks commitment to peace and justice and we will be back as soon as that's on the agenda
thank you so much
thank you any
any interest from the council direct staff on that
yes sure if we could perhaps at a future council meeting have such a resolution on the agenda
The direction would be to have staff look at these other existing resolutions and bring back a draft for consideration.
Is there consensus from the Council, Mr. Mayor, and members of the Council?
Yes. I would support
that. I think that it's a global crisis.
As a parent, it's very hard to stand by
and see so many innocent children suffer in families. And so I would support Council Member Lo's action to bring back a resolution to look at how we can, as a city, express our concerns about what is happening in the Middle East to our representatives in Washington and whatever efforts we can make as a city to ensure that a ceasefire is secured in this area.
Thank you. All right. So I think that's a clear direction for staff to do some work. All right. So we'll move on to presentation items. 1A, Los Angeles County efforts to address human trafficking. Oh, sorry. Yes. We moved the item up. So to item 4A, consider a tougher hearing for Monterey Park Senior Village. Is there a staff report?
Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. We are here this evening to conduct a public hearing pursuant to the Federal Tax Equity
and Fiscal Responsibility Act, or TEFRA, which requires that such a hearing be held by a
governing body in the jurisdiction where a proposed project is located.
This evening, Alexis Givorgian, excuse me, from AMG and Associates, is requesting that
the California Municipal Finance Authority or the CMFA be the issuer of tax-exempt financing
in an amount not to exceed $40 million for the acquisition and rehabilitation of the Monterey
Park Senior Village in Petrera Grande. The debt to be issued by the CMFA is the sole responsibility
of the borrower. The City of Monterey Park has no financial or legal obligations or responsibilities
with regard to the repayment of the debt. All financing documents will carry disclaimers that the loan is not an obligation of the city and the city will also bear no costs in the
issuance of the proposed debt. This evening it's recommended that the city council adopt a resolution approving the issuance
of bonds by the CMFA for the benefit of AMG.
The adoption is solely for the purposes of satisfying the requirements of the TEFRA and
the resolution will also authorize the mayor to execute the JPA agreement with the CMFA.
The applicant Alexis from AMG is here this evening and we have Anthony Stubbs from the CMFA joining us via zoom if you have any questions Thank you any questions from council or do it have to open the public hearing technically so we'll open the public hearing
Any public comment non-registered all right any comments or questions from council
Just to clarify, what obligation of any will the city have to bear with this matter?
The city bears no obligation.
The city is just conducting the public hearing for the purposes of the TEFRA requirements. So the applicant, the project is located within Monterey Park,
and the applicant and CMFA approached us to conduct the public hearing for those purposes.
I see. Thank you, Diana.
Any other questions? If not, I just have quick questions, and I don't know if Alexis or someone else might be able to answer this. I'm just curious if you can walk me through. So if we move forward with approving this, what are the plans in terms of using those funds for renovating the senior village?
Can you just detail that a little bit?
Sure. Thank you, Mayor. Alexis Kevorgian with AMG and Associates. basically the bonds that are going to be issued the proceeds are used to rehab the project acquire the project
it's going to have a technical change in the ownership although I'm still going to be in the new ownership and we're going to rehab
all of the interior of all the units the common areas the elevators furniture exterior painting, roofs. So it's a substantial rehab. And it's a project we built 20 years ago. This was actually my very first project going back 22 years ago. It's kind of nice to be back here. I was here when it was a completely different council. Well, I appreciate the ownership's proactive approach to making sure that this the property continues to be livable and dignified for senior affordable units uh and this mechanism will ensure it these units are not going to become market rate right they'll continue to be affordable and senior there's no no change to the covenants there in
terms of affordability yeah actually there'll be an extension to the regulatory agreement it'll be
pushed out even further out it was 55 years uh 22 years ago so it'll go on another 55
years from today. Awesome, great. If there are no other questions, if there's a motion on this from anyone?
Oh, do I need to close the public hearing? So we'll close the public hearing.
And is there a motion? Move for approval of item 4A. Second. Second. All right, motioned by Council Member Lo, seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Ngo. If there's no further discussion, WE'LL CALL THE VOTE.
APPROVE YOU NAMSLY.
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR PRESENTATION ITEMS.
THAT I CAN'T FIND.
STAFF COMMUNICATION.
YEAH, STAFF COMMUNICATION, SORRY. CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
Thank you. Good evening again.
Diana Garcia, Assistant City Manager.
We wanted to talk about a couple upcoming programs that are coming up next week.
The first one that we'd want to talk about is the Sound the Alarm program.
This is happening Saturday, April 6th from 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. This is a great program that's a partnership between our fire department and the American Red Cross. folks can sign up using this QR code for an appointment and they can have volunteers from the Red Cross and our own fire department
come to their home and install a free smoke alarm and talk to residents about fire safety.
So appointments are going to take about 30 minutes.
If you go to sign up on this link and there are no more appointments available for the 6th, you will get an appointment on another day.
So we definitely encourage residents to take advantage of this program.
It's completely free.
The second event we'd like to call your attention to is our community cleanup this Saturday, April 6th at the Barnes Park Service Club parking lot from 8 a.m. to 12 p.m.
This is for Monterey Park residents, so we're going to require an ID or a bill.
And this is a drive-in and drop-off event so we can collect bulky items, electronic waste, and this is in partnership with Athens Services.
We'd like to remind residents that no hazardous waste such as batteries bulbs paint oil Things like that are going to be collected at this event
And then the final program that we've got coming up is going to be Monday April 8th 6 p.m. to 7 30 p.m.
At the library across the street on the second floor in the friends room
We're going to have a representative from the California Housing Finance Agency Cal
A who's going to present information about assistance programs for first-time home buyers
This workshop is free. It's open to the public. No registration is required and this will be translated into Chinese and Spanish for our residents
So we definitely encourage people to come out and learn about the programs and the assistance that is available to them as a first-time home buyer
That concludes my presentation. Thank you
Thank you, Diana. Any questions or comments from Council? Mr. Mayor? Yes. Diana, thank you for that update.
I'm curious, the first time homebuyer workshop, is that the only
scheduled workshop we have planned for the coming
spring or fall? It is right now, and depending
on the demand, we can definitely schedule more. Cal HFA has been very generous with their time in coming down and presenting these,
But we can definitely do more as the need as I know this in person which is great
But do does Cal HFA also do zoom
Workshops as well
We can check with them on that
I think maybe what we could do is probably set up a zoom link for this one if we're able to do it logistically, okay?
Any other any other comments or questions if not, thank you Diana appreciate it I'll move on to library.
Good evening, Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem and members of the City Council. Kristen Olivera, City Librarian, and this evening I'm here to share some upcoming April events with you. To begin, April 7th through 13th is National Library Week. If you visit the adult reference desk during that week, you can pick up an activity bookmark, complete all of the activities, and then enter for a chance to win a prize. Santa Cruz. On April 9th at 6 p.m. families are invited to enjoy a read-in at the library which will include special activities in the Children's Department. We're also very excited to debut two new library card designs created by the winners of our library card design contest. Jolie Ulevis and Makayla Kwok were the winning designs for that contest and the new designs will be available beginning April 8th. Additionally, the community is encouraged to complete the library's community survey, which serves as an opportunity for the library to hear how we're doing since we published our strategic plan in February of 2023. The survey is available online and printed copies are also available at the library.
The Play Days Read and Ride reading program for ages 0-13 will begin April 8.
Kids who read for four hours will receive a free ride ticket to be used at the Play Days Carnival in May. On April 6th at 10.30 a.m., Chinatown Service Center will provide Medi-Cal enrollment assistance at the library. And on April 8th, the LA County United Mental Health Promoters Program will discuss the mental health challenges of immigration and how to develop coping strategies and resilience. You can join adult services for an AI workshop on April 13th at 4 p.m. And all Swifties are invited to a Taylor Swift party on April 20th at 4 p.m. Lastly, families are invited to celebrate Children's Day on April 30th at 6.30 p.m. with a special Spanish-English bilingual story time and craft. Additional information about all these programs and more can be found on our website
and our social media pages. That concludes my presentation.
I'm happy to answer any questions.
Thank you, Kristen. Any questions from Council?
Well, thank you so much for all of this amazing programming. I'm wondering if you, I don't see it in the slide deck, but if you happen to have any designs to share of the new library cards for us tonight.
No, I don't.
They'll be published on social media very soon.
Oh, that was going to be my second question.
so very good and then um i did have a question regarding the um let me see here oh the taylor
swift party yes um is this just open for kids or is this adult this is for this is for all ages
all ages okay excellent i'm just asking for a friend of mine so it's okay
thank you so much You're welcome.
Kristen, thank you for it. Keep that screen up there.
It shows seven different things for the month of April.
I'm sure there's a lot more, but these are kind of like the seven specific items that's non-recurring. Correct.
I'm just going to keep that in mind because I know who's up, and there's a little friendly competition that I'm tracking for everyone.
Our newsletter is available on our website, and like I said, this and much more is all on our website.
Any other comments or questions I'll just add I'm looking forward to the designs for the library card I will request on behalf of the council samples of the library card designs Maybe we can get some at the next meeting physical ones. I think we'd love to do that And then yeah, I would love to just encourage staff I think this is great to get the community involved in designing a piece of this right stuff. If we can find other opportunities to have the community get involved in ownership of what the city does and the services that the city offers, I think it would be great to promote more of that kind of effort in other parts
of the city as well. Thank you so much.
Thank you. We'll move on to recreation and community services. The bar has been set high.
Good evening, Mayor Wong, Pro Tem Go, Council Members. I'm Christina Alatori.
I'm the Recreation Manager for the Recreation and Community Services Department. We kind of scaled back our presentation tonight, just to kind of throw it out there for Pro Tem Go.
But we definitely packed a punch in our presentation. Next slide, please.
So first, we'd like to thank the community for joining us on the St. Patrick's Day Dance at the Langley Center.
We had a record-breaking 150 participants join us that day.
We featured a band called the Rock Tops.
The seniors are still talking about this band. We catered a meal for them, and it was a really, really great evening.
Next slide, please.
Our Langley Center, as you can see, has been very busy.
So for the first time in quite a while, we actually offered a date night, which is an evening event.
Typically, we offer events during the daytime to get our seniors to participate.
And we tried this out.
We actually had a magician called Richard Sky come out, and it was more of an intimate setting.
We had approximately 60 participants attend, sorry, 80 participants attend, and we had really, really great feedback.
The participants were asking for another date night.
So it was really, really well attended, and we have received very, very positive feedback. Next slide, please.
So we, along with the Boys and Girls Club of the West San Gabriel Valley and the Alhambra Teachers Association, applied for an award with the California Parks and Recreation Society District 13.
and it was a Better Together award, and this was for collaboration efforts,
partnering with community organizations,
and we actually won an award, Better Together, for this year,
and it just highlights our diversity and inclusion efforts we have done here in the city,
and primarily this is highlighting the LGBTQ youth and community members here in Monterey Park.
It was definitely a celebratory night and our staff definitely feels thankful for being able to participate in an event just like this.
Next slide please. So as you know we have our parks master plan. This is a community driven plan.
If you visit any of our parks you're going to be seeing posters with QR codes.
We want as many people to take part in this survey as possible.
the survey is in three languages. It's in English, Spanish, and Chinese.
That way we can also be able to have the input from some of the folks who maybe
speak different languages in our community. And if anybody is watching
this and would like to participate, they can visit our website at
montereypark.ca.gov backslash parks plan to get their input. Some of the questions
are as simple as, what's your favorite park? What do you like about our parks?
Again, we encourage all community members to participate in this survey to be able to get as many public opinions as we can. Next slide.
So on Thursday from 4 to 7 p.m. here at Barnes Park, we are going to be having our spring egg hunt. And it is open to all who would like to participate. this event again is going to take place from 4 to 7 p.m. here at Barnes Park and we actually
have a special visitor for you and it is the Easter Bunny
who will also be here on Thursday come on over and our Easter Bunny here will be taking
photos with the young ones. We'll have opportunities for the toddler age group to come out and participate. So we welcome all community members to come out and join us on Thursday
here at Barnes Park. Next slide. And that's all we got for you. The Easter Bunny and I
are here to answer any questions that any of our council members may have.
Council members, any questions?
Not any questions, just more accolades. Thank you so much for all of the amazing programming.
I know this year I'm unfortunately going to have to miss the spring ink hunt, but I know that I will be here in spirit.
I know, I know.
Robert just booed me. I know, I know. But I'm going to have to take a selfie with you. I know.
Before I leave because my daughters won't believe that I met you tonight. though. But thank you so much for all the amazing program that you do for our families and our residents here in Monterey Park. It's what makes Monterey
Park so special. So thank you and all of the amazing eggs you will lay out
throughout our city for our residents. Thank you. Thank you so much. And I'm
gonna run down and just take a quick selfie if you don't mind. Why don't we
take a council picture. I'm asking for a friend. Will there be enough eggs for
everyone in different age groups? Oh, yes. So we actually,
I know that. We actually, the
Easter Bunny is delivering 10,000 eggs
to be caught. Plus prizes in some of the
eggs. All right. Council,
if you can join us with the Easter Bunny down the dice.
Perfect, right?
Right.
Everyone's looking here.
Let's do one without buddy.
And then let's do one with everyone doing buddy. Yeah, yeah. So everyone gave each other money. There. All right. One, two, and three. Awesome. Good. Yay.
All right. Yay. All right. It's perfect.
Yes. Hold on. Hold on.
Yes. Yes.
And asking for Council Member Sanchez's friend, And adults can also take pictures with the Easter bunny, right? Yes. Yes, they can.
All right. Thank you.
Any other comments or questions from Council on Recreation Community Services?
If not, thank you. Appreciate it. looking forward to the many programs coming up. We will move on to presentation item 1A, Los Angeles County efforts to address human trafficking.
Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the council.
Tonight we have with us Rigo Reyes from L.A. County Office of Immigration Affairs
and also Joseph Milas. He's with L.A. County Office of the County Council. They're here tonight to give the presentation.
Thank you.
Thank you, Diana.
Good evening, Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem, Council Members. Rigo Reyes, Executive Director with the Office of Immigrant Affairs for the County of Los Angeles. And with me is Joe Mellis, as was mentioned earlier, with the Office of the County Council.
We want to basically give you an update of the work that has transpired since we were last year, I believe in January. And this concerns a motion by our County Board of Supervisors, authored by Supervisor Hilda Solis, representing the 1st District, which includes this area, where we were directed to conduct a study in regard to reimagining how we approach labor and human trafficking. We completed the report and submitted it back to the board, and we are now awaiting for direction as to the next steps. We tonight want to highlight some of the recommendations, the issues that came up during the process, and more broadly a discussion concerning the increase of new immigrant arrivals really throughout the county, and certainly Monterey Park is a destination, certainly for some of our new Chinese immigrant arrivals. So I'm going to pass it over to Joe, who did most of the writing for the report, But I just wanted to highlight that throughout this process, we are really looking at approaching this through the needs of the victims that are going through these horrendous conditions and make sure that our approach is centered on providing them the support services they need. And for that, one of the main recommendations, as we mentioned at the last presentation, we want to see if it's feasible to establish a one-stop resource center where victims can come in, connect with trusted service providers that have language capacity, that have immigration legal services available and certainly take into account the cultural issues that the victims, the survivors, have to confront as they tried to get through these ordeals. So I'm going to turn it over to my colleague, Joe Mellis. And really what we wanted to do tonight is give you a broad overview and then be available for any questions that you may have, either directly to the... be available for any questions that you may have either directly to the report or more broadly in terms of like I said supporting this immigrants that we know are in our communities.
! Thank you. Good evening Mayor Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and Council members. If we could have the next slide please. ! So we were here in January and largely what we have on our slides is similar to what we had before and I'm just going to kind of walk through. What we have on our slides is similar to what we had before and I'm just going to kind of walk through it Fairly quickly since you're more or less familiar with it, but I invite you Now or as as I go forward to ask any to interrupt me with any questions you may have We really are here because we want to continue this partnership. We We want it to be clear that this is we're in this for the long term and we understand that this is going to take a lot of doing however it unfolds as Rego said the report has been submitted to the Board of Supervisors so we're in a holding pattern as it were as we wait to see what their reaction to it is going to be and and we hope that further instruction and direction from the board will come to us so that we can take action. But I do recall that there were questions that came from this group of people about whether or not the county was going to be a steadfast partner on this journey and on this issue. And part of being here is about that, is just to say even though we're in as much of a kind of holding pattern as you are in this regard. We will maintain that we want to maintain this connection and we want to maintain communication on this. So again, the report has been submitted. We're waiting for instruction. But the heart of it is really that our approach as a nation to this problem and really worldwide has been focused on a law enforcement approach, which is fundamentally, in a sense, passive. You can't take action as law enforcement until something bad happens. And what that has led to is really worldwide, in the United States, in California, in L.A. County, and obviously here in Monterey Park, is an increase in trafficking, and particularly in labor trafficking, but sex trafficking as well. And so what we're proposing and what the thrust of the report is about is taking a broader approach, what we're calling a public health approach, which is also incidentally an approach that the Office of Trafficking and Persons, which is a federal office, is now adopting as well, which is to really engage on the preventative side of things, to identify populations that are vulnerable to trafficking, that are vulnerable to labor exploitation, and to really treat labor exploitation as a spectrum of activities, of bad activities. But there's wage theft at the Lor end of things. But at the most extreme end is slavery, labor trafficking, sex trafficking. But our approach in terms of our historical approach to this problem has been to focus and isolate ourselves on we're just going to look for trafficking, we're just going to look for violations of the law that are obvious and that we can see. What we're saying is and what we're proposing is and what we want to do is to say, well, actually, anyone who is subject to labor exploitation, that entire group of people, which includes, for instance, all of these folks arriving across the border and coming and ending up here in Monterey Park, this whole population is vulnerable to trafficking because of the status of where they're at. They may be under debt bondage. There may be other coercive circumstances. They simply need to work, and they cannot turn down any job under any circumstances. So to really open ourselves up and become available to those populations is what this is about, the public health approach. So that's really what that part of it. That's kind of underlying all of this. Now, in terms of, if you could move to the next slide, please. In terms of how this would look in the real world, that really manifests in what Rego was talking about, which is a worker resource center. And our proposal involves a pilot worker center here in Monterey Park so that there's a place where people can go, not just victims, but people who are just under circumstances of exploitative working or they just don't know how to deal with their situation, where they can go and talk to folks who've been in their situation, been in their circumstances, who are able to offer them services. And we're talking about a whole panoply of services, legal services, employment services, housing, whatever we can bring to bear in order to kind of get these persons off a path that may lead them into a severely exploitative situation or even full-on slavery. So that's kind of this slide. If you could move to the next slide, please.
Ultimately, the goal here is not to create people who are dependent on government services,
but to create situations where people can realize their own self-reliance
and become persons who can go out and have a job and have housing and take care of their families.
But the problem, of course, is to extricate themselves from these exploitative situations.
And that's where we want to have the scaffolding of the worker center to offer paths forward.
Obviously, people have to avail themselves of these services, but we want to have those services available.
So that's really the kind of the essence of what what is being proposed here And again, we're we're going to wait to see how the board is going to what action the board is going to take But in the meantime, if you have questions, I am fully I invite your questions And and even if they're challenging questions, you know, this is a very challenging problem. It's multifaceted
It's deep.
It's going to take, and the scholarship has shown that there's no way that any one agency,
whether they're a community-based organization or a government agency, no single agency is going to be able to solve this problem. We are all in it together as a community, as a community of Monterey Park, as the wider community of the county, the wider community of the state, and the world community. So that's what this is about.
Thank you. No, I appreciate that. we'll open up to any questions from council members
Mr. Mayor
again thank you very much for coming back to the city council
and yes with having some more information
to share with us and I think we applaud the county for
making this an important priority issue and to working with communities like ours I guess the question I have
is well first I'm very glad that you know your focus is on the victims of human trafficking but I'm curious um does your mandate or directive also include I guess going after those who are the ones who are perpetrating the human trafficking and in another way we want to of course remove people who are
vulnerable in these situations but what are we doing also to to go after those
who are the ones who are organizing these schemes, if you will, that exploit people into human trafficking?
It's a great question, and we are absolutely... One of the things that has been a repeating theme throughout all of this is there is no... In no way, shape, or form is anyone suggesting that law enforcement doesn't have an absolutely critical role to play in all of this. So law enforcement's efforts that have been ongoing for these last many decades, we fully expect and are in partnership with them to continue in those efforts and to heighten them, to broaden them, to expand them, to particularize them. The benefit of this approach, this public health approach, of hopefully establishing real working communications with the population, the vulnerable populations, is that we can get better information about where labor trafficking is happening in real time rather than after the fact. One of the problems for law enforcement with doing work against labor trafficking is that it's a hidden crime. Sex trafficking has been the major focus of law enforcement, mostly because it's easier to spot, as it were, whereas labor trafficking is more difficult. So a major part of this is about creating infrastructure for information to flow to law enforcement so that we can actually get after these bad actors. And part of that is also reimagining the way that law enforcement and that we all conceive of trafficking,
which is rather than as this isolated activity, there's a model that's called the enterprise model. So we're looking at this as an entire system of various components that are involved in the ultimate act of enslaving people. but it starts in home countries, whether a person is going into debt to get themselves transported all the way over here to the United States,
but then the next phase is the distribution, as it were. How do they, when they get to the place that they're coming, for instance, here in Monterey Park, and how do they get to the next destination, which is where they're going to be exploited? And what are the companies, the businesses, the individuals, the activities that are involved in making that happen? So the answer to your question is absolutely. We remain dedicated to rooting out these bad actors, but the problem is that it's been very difficult.
So part of what this is about is creating a flow of information that will allow law enforcement to do their work with respect to labor trafficking and expand beyond just focusing on sex trafficking.
Is it only just local law enforcement that you're working with, but also like the feds, the state as well?
Absolutely. As I said before, the collaborative, the nature of the collaboration has to be between local, regional, state, federal, and global law enforcement.
So we work, Rigo's Office of Immigrant Affairs works with the Department of Labor. They've collaborated on these investigations of these poultry processing plants where, you know, large numbers of people are being exploited, including miners and miners who came across the border unaccompanied.
So it definitely is, as they say, to use a cliche, it's an all-hands-on-deck type of problem. So we look to all of the potential partners at the local, state, and federal level to be involved in this.
And we do have relationships with those groups, including the Department of Industrial Relations at the state level, the state attorney general's office, and we meet regularly with other counties, law enforcement agencies, and district attorney about these issues, and we learn from one another. So, yes. Great.
And what is your timeline? I know you said you are proposing a migrant center, possibly in Monterey Park. What is your timeline?
Well, that's a tough one. That's a very tough one. But I mean, as we envision it, we would really hope to be able to get the planning of an actual center up and the planning going, you know, within the next, hopefully within the next half year. and that we could perhaps stand up a worker center within 12 to 18 months.
That may be a little bit optimistic,
and we're urging the board to, in terms of the funding for this and our vision for the funding of it, is it has to be a long-term thing. It can't be, oh, it hasn't worked this year, so forget it. Let's get rid of it.
We're asking for an initial investment of resources and intent for three years from the opening of the center, not from starting planning, but really from the opening of the center,
because we understand that this is not going to be something that you can put on social media, and everybody's going to rush over. There's a lot of suspicion.
There's a lot of fear of anything that is involved with government, and we really don't want it to have a government, if you will, face. We want it to be, we want to contract with a viable
and robust community-based organization to really run the operation.
We want to be in total collaboration with them, and we want it to be, as much as possible, we want it to be staffed by persons with lived experience of trafficking so that they can talk to people at the level and about the issues that they know intimately and through their own personal experience. Thank you.
First of all, I greatly appreciated Supervisor Huda Solis. making a motion to do this private public partnerships and my question would be So I know it run as staff by trusted partner. Do you have any potential partner? I know you're getting funding and then the timeline coming up, but do you have any potential trusted partners? Maybe
You already have in mind or already partner or anyone looking for that our council can help
We we do I mean I well first of all Well, and it's hard to say, but I don't even want to say for sure that the funding is guaranteed. Like, we just don't know anything at this point. As you probably are well aware, at the state level, there's a lot of issues with funding right now and with the budget. So we remain optimistic. But in terms of community partners, yes, we definitely have some organizations that we have had, you know, preliminary conversations with. We have organizations that might not be appropriate for Monterey Park, but which have radical amounts of experience at doing these types of things, who we have gotten commitments from to help out and be in consultation and partnership with helping perhaps another community-based organization to be the face of this. So the short answer is yes.
I think you answered two of them.
My first question was pretty simple. What do we have now, just a level set? What do we have now to compare to what you will want to do?
You mean what's in place? What's in place now?
Well, I think largely it's a great question, and it's a tough question, because I think largely what we have in place is a shift in consciousness, if you will, that it really is time to change the way that we're trying to address this problem, that despite the very honorable and extraordinary efforts of all people in this county who've been working on this problem, the problem is getting worse. So instead of continuing to do the same thing, we need to step back and reimagine what we're doing, which is, of course, the title of the report.
And I would say that what we do have is a shift in consciousness, which I think is the predicate for making these material things happen. But it's a tough one, right? Because when you talk about sex trafficking of minors, that's very grave. And it is hard to say, well, what about this when you're focused on that? But the fact of the matter is that the evidence is very clear that we do have to expand our focus. And we do need to expand beyond simply looking for bad guys. We've got to address the vulnerable population. We have to be systemic in our thinking. And we have to be long-term in our thinking.
And we have to, unfortunately, we have to invite complication and invite nuance into this problem. because it is nuanced and it is a deep problem. So that may not be entirely satisfying, but that's really what I would say. I understand.
What I'm hearing is that the wheel is broken, and we need to be proactive to solve a problem that is not solvable today,
thus the program.
So my second question then is, from a funding standpoint, I was going to ask, and I think you answered part of that, what is the amount of funding where is it coming from it sounds like we don't know what the amount of funding is but do we know where it's coming from and is it sustainable and it sounds like we're going to go through or you will be going through a three-year process for part of the
funding how close is that being achieved that also is a somewhat of a mystery okay I would say you We do have a proposed budget for the workers' center. It's somewhere in the range of what? Two million or so. For a year of operation, around two million is what we're thinking. But, of course, things change when you get boots on the ground, as they say. So that sounds like $6 million over three years. On the one hand, that sounds like an insane amount of money. And on the other hand, we know that's a drop in the bucket. But it's all about funding priority. And so that part of it is beyond my pay grade. But I would say we have a clear sense of what we need to get it going. And we have a lot of dedicated public servants who have been already working at this for many years. And what we've really done is coalesce that energy into everyone pushing in the same direction, rather than everybody kind of just trying to get it done as best they can. What we're engaged in here is about unifying all that energy and pushing it in one direction instead of dispersed. Thank you.
And I think that makes a lot of sense. actually you know two men a year that's a small number when you think about the resources and number of people you're gonna use to run this program my last question you kind of indirectly answered that that was the resource the support groups that you have in the community it sounds like you have reached out to a lot of community nonprofit or for-profit partners and and I respect that you're working with them let us know we're here to help if you need to reach into a local Marri Park nonprofits or even for-profit community members who can help in part of this resource.
So thank you for being here.
Thank you so much. We will definitely take you up on that offer.
Thanks, Joe. I appreciate you being here and appreciate Rego and both of you coming back to update the council on this effort. I'll just echo what my comments were from last time you presented and that I would welcome, and I think this council would welcome, this effort. and we'd love to see I'd personally love to see this accelerated from even your ambitious timeline because the need is very clear we've seen a very clear uptick in the amount of migrants coming into the city coming to Dings Plaza and other places landing here looking for jobs, looking for housing doubling, tripling, quadrupling up in rooms in hallways and we've had an uptick in code enforcement issues in terms of dozens of people in units that aren't designed to house that many people safely. And we know that that will likely continue to grow. And the faster we can get a resource like this up to help connect these folks, the resources they need in terms of housing, jobs, other economic opportunities, and to get them settled into the services that they need, the better for everyone. Just to be clear on this, you're looking at potentially signing this center here in Monterey Park, but it would serve the wider region, right? Yeah, I mean, yes, obviously it would need to be open to anyone.
But the real point of it is we're calling it a pilot because the vision is that this works,
and then we're able to do more worker centers in other areas
where there are high concentrations of other migrants from other nations. So in La Puente, there's a lot of Guatemalans there.
So we envision having a worker center there that's oriented around that Guatemalan population.
But, of course, the doors are open to anyone who needs services,
and there's language capacity, and there's an ability to refer out as needed. So, yes. Yeah, great to hear.
and the county hasn't piloted this anywhere else to date right no sir no
sir this is this is a this is an innovation and appreciate that we're
being innovative I know government can not doesn't always as innovative and cutting-edge on some of these things to appreciate the effort and the timeline on this but my question will be what can we do how one we're obviously here to partner the city would love to be a part of the planning of this if it moves forward and how it moves forward but what else can we do to help accelerate these efforts right we're going in a budget negotiation or conversations for our own budget for the next fiscal year I imagine county is as well how do we make sure we get in on time with those discussions and planning so that we don't have to if we're waiting six months for a decision for a budget we may have to wait for the next budget cycle right for LA County if there's a way to push this effort and see how we can accelerate if if a letter from the city to County Supervisor Solis or the full board or something there is there anything else we can do to help make sure that this become moves up as a priority for the board for potential funding and the pilot to be kicked off sooner rather than later what that's my question and then to like I'd love to see how we can do that. Well, I think
a letter, that makes a lot of sense to me. I think that to the extent that you're able, gathering as much
data as possible about what is really happening here right now and having that as an ongoing data gathering project, which we can consult about that offline as it were and talk about how that might happen, but so much of what makes a public health approach of any sort. For instance, just getting kids off of cigarettes starting in 2000 in the state of California, the cigarette usage by youth fell and fell and fell. Now, when the vape came along in 2015, then it's, you know, nicotine usage by kids started to go up. But the reason that it declined so steadily and so dramatically over all those years is because there was this gathering of data and sharing of information and penetrating the community with the information. But it all starts with gathering information and knowing what's happening. You cannot go from a place unless you know where you're leaving from. So we need to know really what's happening. So I think materially that's something that could be done. Because you're here and because you have literal boots on the ground going from house to house, finding out what's going on, when your public service workers are going into these places to really make that a component of the work they're doing, is to just how many people are here, what's going on, where else is this happening, what other concentrations are there, because that makes it easier for us to say, look, this really is a problem. It's really happening. They're seeing it every day. And just to go back to the larger picture, we're very mindful of what's happening right now. And I believe the increase in Chinese migrants across the border, the southern border, is on the order of 5,000 percent over the last two or three years. So it's obviously, that can't be anything but an incredible drain and strain on public services here in Monterey Park. So we're very mindful of that. And we appreciate that you're thinking about it in a in kind of this forward-thinking manner So those are things that we will definitely consult with our team about other things that might be possible for your city to be doing right now that We could do together and and and be working in partnership to as you say to it hopefully accelerate this process if it's possible so Those are some just off the top of my head Those are things that I can think of and you obviously are already thinking of the letter, but you know the letter I think is Just to have that on the record. It makes a lot of sense Great is for the report that was sent to the board. Has that been sent to the city already or do we have can you yeah? Can you share that with the council? Well, then and then if if there's agreement among the council if there's a clear direction for the staff to draft a letter along those lines to encourage and urge the county board of supervisors to accelerate these efforts and to double down on making sure these investments are happening. Yes. Yes. All right. There's no objection to that. So if we can get that and coordinate with county staff on the timing of issuing that letter and what else we can do to coordinate communicating and advocating on this specific cause. Noted. Thank you. And I know you guys are already in touch, but continue to be in touch. And I think hopefully clear from the conversation here with this council that we would love to see this happen. And please count us as a full partner in realizing this opportunity. Absolutely. We fully intend to be back. You know, whenever you wish to hear from us, we're happy to be here.
And we just really appreciate the strain that you're under and the difficulties that you're facing.
And we're also mindful that what is going on here is going to spread into the rest of the county.
It's not going to stay isolated here. And so the work that we can do here with you is in service to all the residents of L.A. County.
And I think that that's an important thing to keep in mind. Great.
I appreciate you bringing this to us. Let's continue to talk and get this going.
Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. We'll move on. if there are no further comments from Council members.
Item 1B, San Gabriel Valley Transit Feasibility Study.
Yes, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council,
this item is being brought tonight based on the Council's request. We have with us tonight Martin Medrano from the San Gabriel Valley Council of Governments,
along with Maya Boucher.
She's with Kim Lee Horn to do the presentation in person. We also have Ricky Choi joining us virtually via Zoom. And just as a quick note, I wanted to clarify, so a few months back, our Public Works Director, Sean Igoe, had given a presentation on Garvey improvement projects that we're looking to do, a Garvey improvement project. and so in our presentation to the community and to the council we had presented that the project that we're working on that's going to be funded through 710 funds with Metro the project
it did not
suggest any removal of parking on Garvey or a third lane of traffic so just wanted to clarify that that is still correct. As of today, the Garvey Improvement Project that the city is working on is still, based on Sean's last presentation, that's still accurate. So we know tonight this item is being brought forward because there is a larger feasibility study that's been done in the region and so we invited our San Gabriel Valley COG members to come and give this presentation so there's an understanding of what's occurring. So if there's anything further we can provide clarification on after the presentation,
we'll be happy to do so.
Thank you. Go ahead.
And I think Ricky's probably going to kick us off if Ricky's online. Yes, hi.
Good evening. Can you hear me okay? Yes.
Yep.
All right. Awesome.
Hey, Mayor Wong, Mayor Potempo, members of the City Council, Ricky Joy, Director of Government Relations.
project. Next slide, please. All right. Well, as I mentioned, it's great to be to present
before the City Council and Warner Park, and not only because it's my hometown, but thank you all for inviting us tonight to provide an update on the Santa Gabriel Transit Featability study and specifically the um the proposed um at gray the proposed uh near-term jumpstart projects uh in monarch park identified in the transit study and we want to discuss the continued partnership
with the city and the community and you may recall we were left here before the city council in june of 2022 while we were developing the concepts and obtaining feedback and refining
alternatives um as you know the cog in partnership with la metro have been conducting a feasibility study since late 2021 and with the goal of improving mobility and transit options here we had evaluated short-term and long-term transit options designed to really enhance the lives of
the residents and the commuters in the region especially with a focus on the underserved communities transit dependent populations equity focused communities and with particular interest and attention to those in the communities along the sr60 corridor and just to really recap what
we got how we got here the transit study was initially initiated back in 2020 when the metro
board withdrew the state route 60 alignment as part of their east side transit corridor phase project and that's going to extend the metro rails e-line which was formerly the gold line and the l line at the current terminus on atlantic station through montebello peak river and now
eventually to whittier and so the metro board subsequently had passed a motion led by supervisors lisa solis and former metro director john fasona to really honor that commitment of 635.5 million
dollars that was made to the san gero valley sub-region and keep that funding in our region
to be available for programming in 2035 and they also tasked the cog to determine how we can best
improve mobility and transit in our region so so reimagine san gero valley with enhanced transit
services with higher frequencies faster service and greater connectivity throughout the region
and imagine dedicated bus lanes transit signal priority improvements that facilitate a more reliable transit service, enhanced bus stops with real-time bus arrival information, improvements that increase access to mobility hubs and major activity centers, and improvements that facilitate access to bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure.
So better connections for communities to opportunities, including access to jobs,
housing, schools, medical centers, recreational facilities, and I mentioned mobility hubs
throughout the region and really building an integrated network for the entire
transit network for the entire thing about the region and establishing transit as an effective
and efficient alternative to the automobile. And so we have this great opportunity to invest in
transit in our region that will be transformative, that enhances mobility and provides a more
dependable, convenient and accessible transit option for our region that we're truly extremely
extremely excited about. So on a personal level as a city resident myself, you know,
greater connectivity and improving mobility are definitely areas that we work on as a
region that have lasting impact that can have a lasting impact on our community. So next
slide, please, if you may. And so our transit study began in late 2020, where we had 15
alternatives and through the rigorous screening process and further analysis, we had narrowed
down to three uh three east-west options four north-south options and then carry those into phase two of the study which we completed and wrapped up last month and we have presented the feasibility study report to our cog transportation committee early this month and then and also to our governing board last week which approved the report and the transit study and staff was then directed to identify funding and proceed with the next phase of the project and that will entail
you know further analysis design refinements project definition and environmental clearance so we're looking at implementing the primary east-west hybrid concept featured in the midterm
plan as i mentioned from atlantic station in east los angeles to the pomona transit center that we
will mention a little bit more um when we talk about our jumpstart projects that are being proposed that could potentially be implemented in the near term by 2028 and that's very very exciting
next slide please and just here i just want to note that we've had engagement with the city and
the proposed conceptual alternatives throughout the study process uh since 2022 uh staff had served on the technical advisory committee uh and participated in a series of committee meetings that were held and then also we had um and as mentioned we had uh presented before the city council in 2022 we met with staff and we also got community feedback and participated in what we call a community pop-up event at the cherry blossom festival last year next slide please this just summarizes the comments and feedback we received from the initial outreach that we conducted during the study and as mentioned there will be there will be more opportunities for community engagement as we move into the next phase of the project um but generally the feedback we received was that
there was interest in supporting improving transit in the city uh interest explore what we could we
could be done uh along garvey uh garfield and atlantic um and the need to coordinate with
the street improvement efforts as i mentioned um that the city will be undergoing on garvey avenue
and now um i would like to turn it over to maya of kimley horn to review the jumpstart projects in the midterm plan, the proposed bus lane segments, and BRT configurations as proposed. Maya.
Thank you, Ricky. So part of this project, we developed a feasibility study, and that feasibility study was valley-wide, and so it covered a very big area. And as Ricky had mentioned, there was funding dedicated, programmed by Metro for 2035,
and that is in the amount of $635 million.
And so what we developed is a kind of comprehensive plan that looked valley-wide in how we could implement different BRT improvements.
And that included a new east-west BRT service from Atlantic Station in East L.A. to Pomona Transit Center in Pomona. We also looked at transit hub improvements in various areas, including Atlantic Station, El Monte Transit Center, Plenty Hills Mall, Pomona Transit Center, and Pomona North Metrolink Station. We also looked at north-south bus lanes along portions of Rosemead Boulevard and additional transit signal priority treatments and select major arterials in the San Gabriel Valley.
And so when we were looking at this, we also saw opportunity,
as we know that there's a lot happening on the horizon. We're planning to host the Olympics in 2028. We saw opportunity to advance some of this work into the year 2028
and potentially demonstrate some of these kind of smaller segments. And so I'll be talking about that today. in addition to the midterm plan and just kind of giving you an overview. As was mentioned earlier, this is, you know, valley-wide, so it covers a very big area.
This is kind of the first step in the process. There's a lot more work to be done, a lot more outreach to be done, and these are just simply concepts at this point, some kind of options as we move forward and for you all to consider.
When we're looking at the Jumpstart projects, it includes dedicated bus lane options
along six smaller segments, which I'll show on a map in just a moment in the east-west direction.
and then also transit signal priority along Valley Boulevard, Fair Oaks Avenue, and Atlantic Boulevard, Rosemead Boulevard, Azusa Avenue, and then White Avenue and Arrow Highway. Next slide, please.
So here is the Jumpstart Projects map, and this kind of gives you a sense of, like I said, it's a pretty big area, right? We're looking valley-wide, and what I want to turn your attention to is those areas in red.
So those areas in red are potential bus lane segments, and they're divided into six different segments. It's important to note that Segment 5 was actually included in a grant recently, which is on Valley Boulevard, that was awarded to Metro and the San Gabriel Valley Council of Governments.
It's the Neighborhood and Equity Access Grant, so that's really exciting. But specifically in Monterey Park, we're looking at Segment 1 and 2, which would be along Atlantic and Garvey. Next slide, please.
And then here's a map just kind of narrowing in a little bit more into the city of Monterey Park.
Next slide, please. And so when we're talking about bus rapid transit, there's a lot of different elements that we can consider that can really help improve bus service in this area. And so while we've talked a little bit about bus lanes, which would be dedicated right-of-way for bus service,
there's also other opportunities to enhance the experience for riders, including enhanced stops. So looking at different ways that we can make the experience more comfortable and pleasant for riders,
whether that's providing real-time arrival displays to show when that bus is arriving, maybe providing better stations, so potentially a canopy or walls to shelter riders from any sort of weather elements. In addition to that, we can also look at different opportunities to improve bike and pedestrian access in these areas.
And then on top of that, we also look at limited stops.
And what I mean by that is when we're providing bus rapid transit service, we're really looking at ways to enhance that service. And so while local service can still remain, we want to think about sort of spacing out those bus stops more so we can provide a more efficient service. So kind of in comparison, when we're looking at local service, we typically have about eight stops per mile. And when we're looking at BRT service, we're looking at every half mile to mile providing a stop.
In addition to that, I mentioned transit signal priority.
So this can really help operations, whether that's extending the green phase or, you know, prompting that green phase early on so that the bus can get through the intersection more efficiently.
And then also looking at more frequent service.
So when we're thinking about BRT service, we're thinking about, you know, service intervals of 10 minutes or even faster. And then we're also looking at providing longer service spans, so really providing service throughout the day and not just providing a lot of service during those kind of peak hours for more typical commute patterns. Next slide, please. And here's just some visuals about what kind of options we could have for improving BRT shelters.
There's several elements that could go into this, but just some examples. I mentioned canopy and walls for sort of shelter for those riders.
in addition to that, lighting, real-time, dynamic bus arrival signs, potentially a bench or lean bar, trash cans, and then potentially logo or branding for this BRT service. Next slide, please.
So going into some configurations, and I think it's important to note these are simply options.
We're pretty early on in the kind of stage of this project. This is a feasibility study. This is a planning study. We are not into engineering at this point. But this kind of gives you an idea of some different potential configurations we could look at, the first being on Atlantic Boulevard. And this here shows a curb-running configuration, so that would be where the bus lane is along the curb,
and then you see that there are two travel lanes in each direction. Next slide, please. The next one is also along Atlantic Boulevard, and this would be a side-running configuration with one travel lane in each direction, and here you can see that parking is preserved. Next slide, please. Going into Garvey Avenue, here we have the curb running configuration once again with two travel lanes in each direction and then the bus lane along the curb. Next slide, please. And then here, once again, we have the side running configuration along Garvey with one travel lane in each direction and parking preserved. Next slide, please. So jumping into the midterm plan, I mentioned this earlier, and just to kind of give you a sense, like I said, this feasibility study was really to look at what could be done by the year 20, starting in 2035, to really work on improving transit service valley-wide. And so this really builds on kind of those jumpstart segments that I showed earlier on that could potentially be demonstrated earlier in 2020, by 2028. And so you can see here that we have, from there, expanded where those bus lanes are. I think the biggest things to really point out on this map is The red are the bus lanes. The purple are the mixed flows. So that's where the bus would travel in the lane along with typical traffic.
And then also the red areas that are in squares are those transit hub improvements.
Next slide, please. And I think at this point I'm going to turn it over to Ricky to talk a little bit about some of the next steps for this project. And then I'll come back in when it's time for Q&A. Thank you.
Thanks, Maya. So we're very excited about the potential of these projects and our desire is to implement these improvements as soon as possible, sooner rather than later, especially the Jumpstart projects. Metro is pursuing grant opportunities to implement these near-term projects and continue the next phase of the project to support, as Maya mentioned, the 2028 LA Summer Olympics, which will be car-free. And so they'll really rely on transit for guests and spectators to get to and from the venue. So bus improvements such as these are going to be critical. And it's so important to move people to and from the games. Metro, as Maya mentioned recently, was successful in being awarded a U.S.T.O.T. federal grant. And so they're planning to pursue additional funding opportunities to celebrate implementation of segments one.
when it's available in 2035 and our near-term plan or jumpstart projects that we could implement and realize within the next few years with local support and if funding is available and could be secured in the next phase there will be more technical studies conceptual and final engineering design environmental clearance and we'll work closely with the city to further define what the
project looks like in modern park and and this means identifying and receiving the city's approval before proceeding with any of the proposed link configurations.
We're not going to proceed with any project without the support of the city. And so we're going to do some additional focused public outreach to obtain feedback from residents and community stakeholders. And should the city decide not to implement dedicated bus lanes, there would be no obligation of the city to implement what is currently planned in the feasibility study. However, we would hope at a minimum that we could implement transit signal priority treatments and possible BRT bus shelter enhancements that Maya had mentioned earlier, which would not affect existing lane configurations. But again, we truly believe that these projects can really improve mobility in Monarch Park and make a difference to bring high-quality transit service to the region that better
underserved underserved areas and really transform transit and how we get around in the singapore
valley and so i just want to take this opportunity to to appreciate and show our appreciation
and um with to the city staff for the collaboration that they've shown us so far especially uh thank you to over the city manager ianaz alvarez assistant city manager diane garcia um public works director uh sean um uh aigo and then the rest of the staff that were engaged with us from beginning of the transit study for collaboration and insight and we look forward to the continued partnership with the city of monarch park to making a more integrated transit network in this region a reality so that concludes our presentation and our project team would be
happy to answer any questions thank you appreciate the the very thorough overview I appreciate the COGS efforts. I know this has been a years-long effort to put a lot of this planning and the outreach together and to arrive at this point even. And I know there's still a lot of work to do, so we applaud the COGS staff and Kimley Horn, the consultants on all your work to get everyone together on this and really applaud the efforts to accelerate this and many other transportation projects in light of the Olympics coming up in just a few short years to see what we can do to accelerate and make when the world's eyes are turned on Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, to make it a little bit easier to get around during that event and upcoming events as well. But we'll open up to any questions and comments from council members.
Excuse me.
I also want to reiterate the thankfulness and this SGB cog for being able to develop a project like this. I think anything that helps make our city more pedestrian-friendly and encourage our residents to be able to take public transportation and at the same time encourage and improve our environment,
I think is such an amazing feat and accolade.
I would be interested to see a little bit more community engagement as we progress with this project and hear residents' inputs on a lot of this.
But I think it's an amazing project, and I applaud the COG for working on this.
I think it's definitely due, especially as the Olympics come to Los Angeles.
But not only that, but it also helps connect a lot of our SGB communities together as well. I know that I live in Monterey Park, but I also work in Alhambra. It would be great to be able to take a rapid transit bus that would get me there rather quickly to be able to commute from Monterey Park on public transport to Alhambra. And I think that's the same for a lot of many of our residents who live within Monterey Park who work in the surrounding community. So thank you so much for all the effort that the COG is doing on a lot of this work.
And then no real questions other than just really looking forward to a lot of this work.
Some questions will come up as we think about the third lane in terms of the last lane. And I think as we progress, I think a lot of those questions will have to be answered.
Thank you. Mr. Mayor?
Again, thank you very much for bringing us to the city's attention. And certainly this is something that I've been aware of as someone who sits on the COGS Transportation Committee.
I do have a question, which I know our city manager touched upon.
But when the city approved its own Garvey Mobility Plan, that's where Garvey Avenue, using 710's funding, we had made very clear to the community, which in an earlier iteration of that mobility plan had meant taking away parking spots, that we would not be taking away any parking spots off of Garvey, which was a main concern for local businesses. And so I'm curious, given that that mobility plan, even though it's a different part of money, it's 710 money by Metro, it's been approved by us, it's been moved forward by Metro, how would this then be integrated, articulated?
I know it's a different part of money.
It's SR60 money back when we were going to extend the gold line, but I guess what are the technical aspects of, you know,
should we move forward with this?
How would the two then make sure they're complementary to each other?
Yeah, that's a great question. So in terms of how we would kind of coordinate the efforts that the city already has planned, I mean, I think that really goes into kind of the next stages of the project. As I mentioned, we were looking valley-wide. It's such a big area. And so now that we really have kind of a little bit more focused areas, we're able to coordinate even more with those direct cities and start having these conversations about what does this really look like as it moves forward.
And I think in terms of coordination, I mean, there's a lot of ways to approach the parking question. You know, there are ways to, you know, I mentioned the side running configuration where parking is preserved. There's a lot of different ways to approach it. Some cities do, you know, curb running during the peak hour and then parking is preserved throughout the rest of the day. And so those are things that we can consider as we move into design. You know, the other thing is right now at this point, we're just kind of looking for general support. But, you know, the city has the, you know, the agency.
If, you know, those conversations continue and certain things don't fit and maybe they fit in certain areas but not in other areas, those are conversations that can be had. So I think ultimately to answer your question is it'll be a lot more coordination as time goes on. And we'll be, you know, mindful of the ways that we can coordinate the efforts that you already have going on in your city and making sure that what we're doing is consistent with that vision.
Okay, great. Thank you. And probably another comment is, and again, this is because of the experience of the city when we were approaching our Garvey mobility plan, is I hope that with COG and the city, we make a concerted effort to reach out to the merchants along Garvey. because I think those, whatever we, I mean, it's, well, this has multiple potential benefits, of course, to commuters, and I am someone who sometimes takes Metro Bus 70, so I know that Garvey is a very public-dependent street, but also that is our main commercial corridor, and so I think it would behoove us to make sure that we have robust outreach and also cooperation as well engagement with those, well, not just businesses, but we also have churches in Longarvey.
We have several public schools to make sure that everyone has had an opportunity,
as well as communities, an opportunity to really, I think, weigh in and give hopefully robust input on this whole process.
So I just wanted to ask for the bus-only lane, the first time I've seen it, just a question that is that allow car to drive to know? Okay, let's say if the car needs to pull over or use it, that means it would still be okay?
So during different transition zones, whether it's, you know, if it's getting to a right turn pocket or whatnot, that would be permitted. But during, you know, when you're moving through an area, it would not be permitted.
So during traffic, the car, even the car is not alLod?
They can use it to cross the bus lane, but they can't drive in the bus lane consistently.
Okay. And then, so, okay, asking through. So another question would be, so all the bus lane will be all printed in red, right? So it would be all the way, let's say, on Garvey.
So in case, you know, if... So the bus would not be affected by any car in case of traffic, so the bus can still go through. So that means the bus will not be delayed if they have to reach a certain station. So is that a benefit for...
Correct, yeah. So they, I mean, with the dedicated right-of-way, right, If you're riding a bus, you are not impacted by peak hour congestion, like if you're in a mixed flow facility where you have a bus sharing a lane with a car. And there's other elements to this that would be considered as we move into later stages of the project. But how does transit signal priority, if that's an opportunity that can be implemented at the signal, how can that help make operations more efficient? So there's a lot of different components to this to really improve transit service. And like I said, I think those things will be kind of, you know, hammered out in detail as time goes on. And, you know, there are several cities involved in the San Gabriel Valley. And so those, you know, different things will work for different cities, right?
Okay, I remember my question. So any penalty if the car actually drives? Yeah.
You know, there are, yeah. So, I mean, that kind of gets into the later stages of, you know, enforcement and sort of partnership there. but there can be penalties for driving the bus lane depending on how it's being used. But those are things that I think would be considered later on in terms of how we want to educate the public and whatnot. We definitely don't want to be moving into a situation where we're implementing something without educating the public of new facilities. Okay, thank you.
So I just have a follow-up question.
The bus only, is that permanent or is that only during peak hours or restricted hours? That was my basic question.
Yeah, that's a great question. It can be either, right? Both are an option. So a peak hour bus lane could be implemented, and one of the benefits of that is that you can, if it's curb running, you can preserve that parking during the day.
That's something that's really important to this community.
And then some of them are permanent throughout the entire day.
I think the other thing that's kind of an important thing to note in this situation is we have the jumpstart projects, which are for 2028.
And that's really an opportunity to sort of test these, demonstrate these, and see if they work for these communities.
And then we have the 2035 plan. So there's kind of some opportunities here, and that's really what I think, you know,
the Council of Governments and Metro is actively pursuing funding to see what kind of opportunities are out there
as we prepare for, you know, the major event that is the Olympics. And it really gives us an opportunity to test these different things out. Thank you. I appreciate this. I WOULD SAY THAT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND WOULD WELCOME FURTHERING THIS CONVERSATION. YOU SAID YOU WERE LOOKING FOR GENERAL SUPPORT. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S GENERAL SUPPORT FROM THIS COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. I KNOW IT'S NOT A VOTING ITEM FOR US TONIGHT, BUT I THINK HOPEFULLY CLEAR DIRECTION TO STAFF TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AND SEE HOW WE CAN SUPPORT MOVING THIS CONVERSATION ALONG. Obviously, and you're aware that we have been in early-ish stages of planning our own Garvey Avenue and other main corridor kind of improvements as well. So making sure our concerns, I think, would be on making sure that the efforts we've already done to do some outreach around there and shape those plans, that they align well with what might take shape here with the BRT, potential BRT line along some of the same routes. so just making sure that we our designs align and are we're at the funding sources and everything in terms of planning for this right shape up so we're not planning for different things it sounds like we're already starting to have this conversation appreciate the cog coming here tonight to present this to us I think we're comfortable moving forward on this and seeing how we can support accelerating this conversation and going after potential funding to realize some this and as you were noting there are a few things I think are no regrets that we should pursue no matter what right bus bus stop and bus bus shelter improvements that's a no-brainer traffic signal priority is a pretty no-brainer I think and that's something we're already trying to look at in terms of traffic signal improvements along Atlantic Garvey Garfield and other places anyway so So some elements of this plan, I think, are already things that we've had in mind. And so how we align some of these other things and make sure we're addressing the concerns of those immediate neighbors that would be impacted by any redesign of Garvey. Let's just make sure, and it sounds like there will be outreach to them, but let's make sure that happens as quickly as possible, but also as responsibly as possible, and see how we can move together between the comments.
and I think also Ricky should probably chime in on this, but as he mentioned, right now they're actively pursuing funding
for these Jump Start segments, so I think that's kind of contingent upon what funding is secured.
Segment 5, which is outside of the city of Monterey Park, is already funded, so there's opportunity to kind of think about the next steps with that.
And when is Segment 5 again?
That's along Valley Boulevard.
In Alhambra?
No, if you go back to the...
Go back to the.
So segment five is right kind of in the middle of the valley there. OK.
OK.
So so I think for for kind of next steps is that, you know, that thinking about kind of where, you know, what happens if that funding is secured for segments one and four. and then also the midterm plan. There is still some time, but I know that the COG has some work ahead for the next year with Metro and finding kind of ways to progress this forward. And so, Ricky, do you want to chime in on anything else that I may have missed?
Yeah, I think you covered it. The COG is in communication and working with LA Metro on the next steps to identify funding to get us to the next phase of the project. I think we're going to continue with the design refinements, project definition, and environmental review phase pending additional funding from Metro in the upcoming fiscal year. So we're very much looking forward to that. And then obviously, as we mentioned, with the grant award that Metro got recently, that
would provide funding for segments east of El Monte through an incorporated LA County and Apocado Heights, which we're very excited about. And so we're looking forward to additional funding opportunities that would provide us and realize the segments from the Atlantic Station
through Mono Park and into the El Mahdi Trans Center.
So looking forward to that and looking forward to the partnership with Mono Park.
And so this regional project, is this one of Metro's 2028 priorities? priorities, you know, that's a list of 28 projects to be accelerated by 2028 for the Olympics. Is this one of them or is this going to be one of them?
So this project has been included in some of the grant opportunities that Metro has been
pursuing to support the 2028 Olympics.
All right.
So if you can help us from, I'm sorry, I've got a question. If you can help us from the diagram so you're speaking about bullet point five that's in Imani but where it affects our city city of Montepark that's phase two right that's two that's one and two one and two one is basically on the border of is that Atlantic from Montebello going through Garvey and then two is from Garvey Atlantic going through all the way through to Imani right yeah so three and four four would be Imani three would be Rosmeet, and two would be Monterey Park.
Yeah, so first segment is on Atlantic Boulevard from 1st to Garvey,
and then from there it's from Atlantic, on Garvey it's from Atlantic to New Avenue. Got it.
So those are the segments.
I just wanted to clarify that because we can't really see clearly the picture.
Actually, another follow-up question.
Because it does involve neighboring jurisdictions,
have you already made presentations to them?
And I'm just curious, since they are in neighboring cities,
what is their feedback?
I think, I mean, Ricky, if you want to chime in, there's, generally speaking, I think everyone has kind of their own feedback, but we've, you know, we've received a lot of support in terms of, I mean, we're in the early stages of the project at this point.
But, yeah, the neighboring jurisdictions have been engaged, and there's been conversations with all the cities that could potentially be involved in this project.
All right. Thank you.
I know we're talking about planning for physical improvements on the roads to add some sort of either permit or part of the day BRT. Are we also talking about or is Metro also talking about different service lines like buses like a bus line that's going to travel faster like the Silver Line or whatever adding that to this line because that's a separate
conversation right? Yeah that's a really good question so to answer your question
When we're looking at the Jumpstart projects, most likely we would be really just using existing service but providing physical improvements to better enhance that existing service.
But then when we look at the midterm plan, there is opportunity for operational improvements and looking at those kind of services.
But, you know, at this point in time, it's very early on.
We've, you know, Metro's been involved in the conversation, obviously. Foothill Transit has been involved in the conversation.
so they're both aware and kind of, you know, that would be something that would be sort of, you know, discussed further as things move on. But, yeah, I mean, service would certainly be something considered, probably not as much for the jumpstart project since it's so early, but something that we would consider for the midterm plan.
Great.
No, I think because a selling point would be how existing service lines, how much time improvement and service improvements we can, just with these designs without redesigning the line and the routes, what that might be in terms of the benefit for riders. But, you know, Council Member Lo might have a question. Thank you.
So, and again, I know this is a proposal for the Sangamo Valley,
but is there a comparable project that we could look at
just to see kind of what has been from concept to community outreach to feedback? Does Metro have any comparable projects that we could use possibly as a guide, just to compare?
I mean, there's definitely several BRT projects throughout Los Angeles County that you can look at.
There's different types of BRT services. There's the Wilshire BRT in the city of Los Angeles.
Metro's also done quite a few quick build, kind of comparable to what we consider the jumpstart projects throughout the city of L.A.,
and they have information on that on their website.
So, yeah, there's several different examples that can be looked at to see how those operate. And I know there's some questions about how does that play out in practice as a driver. And so there is opportunity to see those in action.
All right.
Great.
So if COG can keep the city staff apprised of any additional community outreach on these concepts and potential designs for this and the planning process, I think I know council members and members of the public would be interested in attending those and we can help promote Those opportunities alongside our other community outreach activities that are going to be happening and I think Safe to say this council supports moving ahead generally and we'd love to see how we can align our planning efforts and and See what we can do here for sure And if there's no other questions or comments from council, I think I'll just appreciate COG and Kim Lee Horn and everyone for the work on this. Appreciate getting to this point and looking forward to quick action hopefully soon on this in the coming months and a few years in the lead up to the Olympics. Thank you. Thank you so much. Alright. If nothing else on this, we'll move on to item 2A. Award of franchise agreements for residential and commercial waste collection and recycling services. And we'll start with the staff report, and then we'll have public comment.
Mr. Mayor, members of the council, Sean Igoe, Director of Public Works, and Amy will be joining him for the presentation. They're just getting set up. Just give them one second.
All right. Good evening, Honorable Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem and City Council. Sean Igal, Public Works Director. I also have Amy Ho. She's our Principal Management Analyst within Public Works. We also have online our consulting firm HF&H and leading that team is Laith along with April and Carla. So they're here to answer any questions that may be more technical related to solid waste questions.
So we'll go ahead and get started.
So tonight you have before you an award of a franchise contract for the City of Monterey
Park. So I just want to give you a quick overview on Measure BB again.
We did this back in the January 17th presentation, but I just want to give you a quick reminder
on these items.
On March 8, 2011, voters approved Measure BB, adopting an ordinance mandating the City Council to utilize a competitive bid process to award solid waste franchises with the city. The ordinance added Monterey Park Municipal Code Chapter 6.09 of the solid waste franchises. This municipal code requires the City Council to award solid waste franchises on a competitive basis with contracts not to exceed seven years. Franchises must be awarded based on the Lost proposed monthly rate to the customer and the City Council must award the residential solid waste franchise to a single franchisee but may at its discretion award commercial solid
waste franchises to up to three franchises. A quick timeline just to recap on the process
that we've been going through. Back in October 2018 to 2023 approvals to release requests for qualifications or RFQs were submitted. November 15th of 2023 deadlines for statements of qualifications or SOQs were sent out. And then January 17, 2024, approval of a list of companies qualified to submit applications and bid were approved by City Council. And then February 14, 2024, the deadline for applications and bids were received. And then now we're at this point for the award.
Based off the applications and bid received, Athens Services provided bids for a two-cart residential system a three-cart residential system and commercial services where disposal provided a three-cart residential system bid and commercial
services bid just a quick overview on residential service service options so
currently the city has a two-cart system which consists of part one which is mixed waste solid waste and recyclables and then a second car of organic materials the three-cart system is cart one is a solid waste only cart two is recyclable materials and cart three is organic materials and then for the two cart system bids again Athens is the sole provider of bids for this two cart system currently the city pays approximately four million dollars for single-family cart approximately two million for a multi-family bin and there's no additional charge for abandoned items this comes out to an
approximate cost of six million dollars a year the current bid received by
Athens is estimated about $10 million for single-family carts, $3.4 million for multifamily bin and $325,000 for abandoned items for a total cost of about
$13.7 million per year. The three-car residential bids, we don't have any
comparables if we don't have a three-car system currently. So, where disposal
provided a cost of approximately $5 million for a single-family cart,
approximately $1.5 million for a multifamily bin and $60,000 for
abandoned items for total cost about $6.6 million. Athens provided a proposal of $6.4
million for single family carts, $2.5 million for multi-family bins and $325,000 for abandoned
items for total cost of about $9.2 million. So what that relates down to the residents.
So here's a breakdown for the slide, the portion in green is what we're currently paying and the portions in blue are what's proposed for the residential cost per cart, sorry per month. So currently the cost is about $23.30 per month for the two-cart system at 96-gallon carts. Again we don't have a three-cart system so there's nothing compared to for the current rates. Monthly rate proposal for Athens is $58 per month for the two-cart system and where does Wilted have not provided a bid for the two-cart system. For the three-cart system we have a cost of about $38.69 per month from Athens and then where provided a cost of about $30 per month. I just want to make a note that these costs do not include the city's franchise fee. The franchise fee typically covers items such as staffing costs, damages to roadways caused by these trash trucks in addition to consulting fees. Currently we have
our franchise fee based off percentage. We're moving to a based off of this new proposal we're
basing it on hard costs occurred by the city. So I just wanted to highlight that note. These costs
will increase slightly. Finally, we have the commercial bids that were received based off
of our current system where their proposal is $2.5 million and Athens is $3.5 million. Again, just want to remind Council that based off of Measure BB they do have the option to award up to three commercial options. So again, the City Council could award both of these as providers for the city. So with that I will take any questions.
We'll open it up to public comment before we open up to council for questions. City Clerk, how many speakers do we have? So Mayor we have 12 speakers and forward in communications. Let's start with the speakers. Okay first speaker Jay where
Thank you. Well, good evening, Mayor and City Council Members. My name is Jay Ware with Ware Disposal Company. I'm the General Manager. I have with me my team of some of my team, my operations managers, and I also have the president of the company, Judy Ware. She's sitting in the background there. We saw you a couple of about seven years ago, and we were the low bidder on the commercial services at that time. And Council decided that they wanted to split it between us and Athens. and we very much appreciate it. It got our foot in the door and we've been providing services in the city for the last seven years.
Tonight, you have a different challenge in front of you, which is putting pride in the past and going with faith in the future. Mayor, you said it tonight. It's all about innovative and the best technology and that's what I've offered you for the Lost price.
There is no resident majority that wants to pay $280 a year more for trash services and recycling services and get the same service they're getting today.
It's all about innovation, cutting-edge technology, and that's what I'm bringing you.
We're bringing you the best, most advanced trucks on the market available today, the best and newest carts available today, the best bins today, all going to be rolled out in a timely fashion, and we're going to provide those services at the cost and proposal we've put forth.
That being said, you'll probably have questions after you go through your, when you have your
comments and I'll be more than glad to answer those questions.
But I just wanted to let you know that I'm here available to answer those questions and
from a company that's been in business since 1968, our name is on the side of the trucks
And we pride ourselves in this is for the residents and we look forward to servicing the city. Thank you so much
Thank you. And yeah, please do stick around. I'm sure we'll have questions for both the applicants next speaker
Thank you next speaker. We have Gary Clifford folLod by being low
Good evening, Mayor Wong, Mayor Pro Tem Ngo, Council Members Yu, Lo, and Sanchez. My name is Gary Clifford. I'm the Senior Executive Vice President representing the 2,500 men and women of Athens Services. Tonight, I ask you to consider adopting the recommendation for the two commercial haulers and continue the residential program the way it's currently with Athens. No operational changes to your customers. If you think about changing to a three-barrel system, gain some community input as contemplated by Measure BB. However, always choose Athens, and we can drop a blue barrel anytime you want in any part of the city. That's required. Athens has been your trusted waste and recycling partner for over 60 years. Our owners, the Eric Kellyanne family, actually drove trucks and cut their teeth in this city, learning the trash business, improving the quality of life for all Monterey Park residents, while building one of the most significant environmental companies in this region. We own and operate our processing facilities. It took me 15 minutes to drive here from there, where our trucks reside. They're local, nearby, and that's great and has a positive impact on the carbon footprint and the environment. Residential waste hauling is a very technical and important environmental service, one that requires us to be familiar with your families, your routes, and your homes, one that operates safely in your neighborhoods, one that supports your city and your city events. Athens is the only qualified residential hauler that submitted a proposal. The other hauler does not have one single municipal residential exclusive contract. They don't work with any city council, city residents, or city governance in the commission of an exclusive residential municipal contract, and the nuances of the required diversion, programs, outreach, education, and more importantly, safety. Using a county pocket as a municipal residential experience and comparing that to a company that has multiple exclusive municipal contracts is not an equitable measurement at all. Measure BB could not and did not contemplate what the future of waste and recycling legislation could bring to this industry. Measure BB requires not only a low price, but it requires haulers to meet material requirements and be rated on technical responses in addition to pricing. And when you do that, our competitors do not qualify. I speak to you on this point from experience. I am an elected official in my community with experience as a mayor and city council members on these very issues. I also represent the industry all over the state. I believe that you have the ability and the responsibility to deem the other hauler non-compliant and lacking a technical response. And you should continue your relationship with Athens Services. I truly believe this is in the best interest of the environment of your residents and your businesses. Please take note of what the hauler said tonight. For the past seven years, we've been serving your business community along with Wear Disposal together, and Athens has 90% of that business. Your customers have already spoken. They've chosen Athens. during this time where has not been able to nor have your customers been compelled to change their services from Athens and they love our recycling services. Think about what I just said to you. Where has 10 percent of the commercial business in this community over a seven-year period? To me, your customers have spoken. I visited them and asked them and they've spoken to you and that should be enough for you to make this decision tonight. We at Athens Services will continue our public outreach, our safe operations, our white glove service that we provide to your families and in your neighborhoods without changing a thing. Choosing Athens tonight will be the right decision. Talk to us, negotiate with us, and please note that we believe that we've demonstrated that we are the only qualified respondent to this process. Athens has served your community with pride. Our drivers have been here over 25 years, some 30. They are familiar with your families, with your neighborhoods, with your businesses, and with your community culture. Changing this service will have an adverse effect on your community, upset your residents, and have a negative effect on the environment. Athens is proud of our legacy and our service to your community. On behalf of the men and women that serve our company and the Erichelian family, I ask that you choose Athens tonight and allow us to continue calling Monterey Park our work home. My staff and all of us are available tonight if you have any questions or comments from us. Good evening.
Thank you. Again, stick around. I'm sure we'll have a very robust discussion. Next speaker.
Thank you. Ving Lo, folLod by Becky Chang.
Ving Lo, Mayor Thomas Wong, Mayor Pro Tem Ving Lo, and Council Members. I live in Rosemead, but I have a property here, a rental property in Monark Park, and my in-laws live here, and my sister lives here, and they have property here. I've been dealing, I just want to share my experience about Athens on trash collection in the city of Monterey Park. So over the last 13 years that I own the property here, I've never had problems with Athens, and service has been very good. They are exceptional with service. So every time I have a problem with tenants living, and they leave a lot of trash, I just call Athens, and next day the trash is gone. And the last time I had to deal with a tenant that I evicted, and I called and the routing supervisor came and picked up the trash himself. So I'm very happy with the service. I really seriously hope you take that into consideration. You know, Monterey Park is known for one of the best cities to live in, and the quality of service is very important. so please think about that and also switching to another company I had the same experience in El Monte when they switched to Valley Vista I had a lot of issues with the trash companies missing picking up trash because when Valley Vista took over they had a lot of problems I don't know maybe bringing in new trucks or doing stuff like that so that's my experience with them and also I want to share about two-cart and three-cart. I had switched from big bins in one of my sister's property in El Monte from a big bin because other people were throwing trash and I had constant problems with them throwing trash into my big bins, so I switched it over to the small bins for each individual apartment. but then with three beans when you bring this out to the street or you should see what my tenants were complaining about because there's no room in the streets and think about it, if you go to a three bean here in Moray Park and you have 12,000 beans coming out every week it's a big mess so I hope you take that into consideration I think that's all I have to say, thank you very much Thank you.
Not only because of my current role with the company of Athens Services, but my over 15 years of government service providing critical resources here to the city of Modern Park to benefit the residents of the Modern Park community.
If anything, I call Modern Park my second home because many of my community friends here have adopted me as part of their family. So tonight, I really urge you to compare the things that Athens has been providing in this city
that the current Lor bidder will not be able to match. Resources that are critical and catered to Marnory Park, given the unique characteristics of the city. One, institutional knowledge of the city. My years of public service work had alLod me to build positive working relationship with many of the nonprofit organizations that provided much-needed support to the residents of Monterey Park,
whether it's the Monterey Park Women's Club, Mercy, Chinatown Service Center, Boys and Girls Club, West and Gabriel Valley, and to our very own American Legion Post 387 under Commander Gabriel Suarez.
I am familiar with the city and the groups that support the residents of the city.
Second is the cultural awareness and language support.
For a service provider to be able to efficiently distribute information,
it needs to be intricately aware of the culture of the communities. is sharing the information too, and be able to share the information in the language that it
communicates, that these communities will respond to. And Athens not only have a customer service
hotline that has translation support to answer questions to all our customers in language of their preference and choice, all Athens critical resource materials has been translated into both Spanish and traditional Chinese to accommodate the diverse demographics of Monterey Park. Three, SB 1383. So even more so with the yet unfunded mandate of California Senate Bill 1383, where all Californians are required to separate their food waste away from their black barrel
into a green barrel to reduce climate pollution, does the Lor bidder have that type of education outreach
already in place to educate the residents
and the vast number of restaurants here in the city?
Will the Lor bidder be able to prevent the city of Monterey Park to be fined based on noncompliance from CalRecycle, the state agency that regulates such a bill. Because this year, 2024, is the year that CalRecycle will be executing and enforcing the right
to just do just that.
And yet, on the contrary, Athens Services has already been doing that for the past couple years.
We not only have dedicated teams that go out
to visit both our residential and commercial customers regularly.
We also have robust sets of educating and educational and marketing tools.
And mind you, in those different languages, to educate our customers
that what the state bill is about, how to accurately separate your waste under this new rule.
give presentation to 350 kindergartners to fourth graders about how to separate your waste.
So council members, I want to emphasize to you that I am confident that I am a trusted voice
in the St. Gilbert Valley and made even more positive contributions here in the city of Monterey Park. This is personal for me, and I'm now representing a company that has just done the
same for the city of Modern Park. So I ask you to really think about these before
you make your decision tonight on what is best for your constituents and I look forward to working with all of you, each one of you the city staff
to serve the residents and the business of Modern Park. Thank you for your time.
Thank you. Xu, Xi, Yi.
FolLod by Daisy Ma.
Honorable Mayor and Council Members, my name is Sisi. I'm a long-time resident and a business owner in San Gabriel Valley. Previously, I was a member of the Chamber of Commerce in Monterey Park and Alliance Club.
My purpose tonight is to speak in support of well-disposal. Worth Disposal is a firm I have been knowing for seven years,
and I want to encourage the city councils to vote in favor of extending exclusive commercial franchise to the firm. Why?
Franchise where disposal is responsible and efficient, meaning that the customer enjoys among the Lost rates while receiving excellent services. Thank you for your attention.
Thank you. Daisy? FolLod by Gary Yuan.
I mean, Gary, sorry. Good evening, Mayor, City Council, City Manager, and everyone here tonight. My name is Daisy Ma, and I am the Chief Government and Community Relations Officer for Chiantang Service Center, also known as CSC, a nonprofit agency that has two offices in Monterey Park, located at 855 South Atlantic and 112 North Chandler Avenue. We also oversee the Monterey Park Hope Resiliency Center. Both locations of CSC are commercially serviced by Athens Services, and CSC is very satisfied with Athens Services. As a longtime resident of Monterey Park for many, many years, my family and I are also very satisfied with Athens Services. It is of utmost importance for a community service provider to be culturally sensitive to the communities that it serves. CSC is one of those organizations, and Athens Services is another. Not only does Athens provide a customer service line that Becky just mentioned, they can speak multiple languages, and also provides its customers of language appropriate resources in all their outreach materials that educates the city residents on how to comply with state of California regulations. Most recently, at the annual two-day Lunar New Year celebration, Athens Services provided free large roll-offs to the event and had a booth full of their service materials in various languages and acted as a crucial liaison between the state CalRecycle. Unfortunately, WEIR, the Lor bidder of the waste hauling contract, didn't participate in the grand event with materials of the company's services. So I wonder, does WEIR have materials, first of all, in different languages that fit our residents and commercial community? What outreach resources do they have?
In closing, I respectfully ask the Council to vote for Athens Services as the City's next solid waste hauler for both the residents and businesses of Monterey Park. Thank you very much.
Thank you. I apologize.
Gay Yuen, folLod by Teresa Amador.
Good evening. Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, City Council members, my name is Gay Yuan. I'm a over 40-year resident of Monterey Park and definitely consider myself a stakeholder and have a vested interest in the workings and the dealings of our city. Having said that, I also have these we're relationships that I develop, and one of those are the relationship that I've developed with my trash holders, right? And so in all these years that as part of a residence program, I've just been really, really pleased with the quality of service and how we are serviced by Athens in our complex. And our complex has over 40 different households, multiple generation households. And I can only talk about experiences because I'm a storyteller. And one of the things that, looking like this, I'm elderly. and when we were shut down for COVID, I decided it was time for me to clear out my house and declutter. So then I was faced with all these bags and bags of trash that I need to get up and I couldn't lift it to the bins.
So I would listen and when I hear the beep, beep, beep, beep, right, of that little red truck that comes to haul down the bins,
then I would run downstairs and I would say, would you please help me with these bags? And it's always with a smile. It's always helpful. It's always willing. And another story I'd like to tell was, this is pre-COVID now,
and Athens decided that it would fit their schedule more
if they change the dates of our trash pickup.
And we didn't like that at all.
And we didn't want those dates changed.
And Athens sat down and talked to our HOA, reworked out the schedule, and then very happily we got our days back. And they didn't have to do that. When you talk about large corporations and large companies with hundreds and hundreds of employees,
one small resident group is just that.
But they chose to listen to us and they chose to care about us. And to me, that's what's important.
when we talk about Measure BB and it's, you know,
what it requires you to do as a city council, when I teach as a professor at Cal State LA, I teach my students, yes, you need to look at data,
but very often there's soft data that you need to look at. It's not just objective numbers. but it's also subjective feelings and quality.
And I think that Athens gave us that quality
and that subjective data to make our lives better. And so I'm urging that the city council votes in favor of extending the Athens contract for the next cycle. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Teresa, folLod by Brandon Young.
Thank you.
Good evening, Mayor and City Council Members, City Manager. My name is Teresa Amador. I'm a former City Clerk of Monterey Park. I'm also a community volunteer and fourth vice president of the Monterey Park Women's Club.
I'd like to talk to you about Athens, but I'd like to talk to you not only about their service, but about community reinvestment. Monterey Park has a plethora of financial institutions, has a plethora of corporate centers, and many, many businesses. As community-based organizations, it's very difficult to raise funds. So I'd also like you to consider that as different corporations come to you to open up businesses and expand their businesses, that you ask them, what is your community reinvestment? How do you give back to the community? Athens has a proven track record of supporting nonprofits. It's very, very difficult since COVID to raise funds for nonprofits. For example, the Monterey Park Women's Club has their annual fundraiser, which is a fashion show. All of the monies that we ran, that we raise, we give back to the community. We reinvest in our local nonprofits. The Boys Club, the Monterey Park Foundation, the Women's Club, we give to all various nonprofits. So ask, what is your community investment? What is your commitment? So that's a really, really important component. Not only does Athens provide excellent customer service, they have been here a long time. On a personal note, my childhood sweetheart had esophageal cancer in 2011. And I'll never forget the act of kindness that my Athens driver did.
and on his own, after he would go and pick up our trash,
he would return the trash can back to our driveway.
He didn't have to do that, but it was an act of kindness. And as I hear tonight from various speakers,
they're committed to the community. They have a long track record, but most importantly,
they give back to our community.
So please consider the community reinvestment when you're making your financial decision.
Thank you.
Thank you, Teresa.
Brandon Young, folLod by Anthony Hernandez.
Good evening. My name is Brandon Young. I'm a partner at the Manette Phillips Law Firm. I'm here tonight to speak on behalf of Athens Services. My comments will be brief. The city should award the city's residential franchise for source separation to Athens, as permitted under Municipal Code Section 60907E, which permits such an award because where does one, not meet the material requirements of the RFA, and two, where materially failed to file a responsive bid. Alternatively, Athens can be awarded the mixed waste award franchise. The issues are straightforward. First is an issue of competency. Measure BB requires an award based on the applicant proposing the Lost proposed monthly rates. The staff report refers to this as a must award. However, Measure BB also states the applications must be evaluated on the basis of several factors, including compliance with bid specifications, including technical responsibility. Can they do the job they say they could do? And the government code also states that selection must be made on the basis of demonstrated competence.
It is a misnomer to conclude that the city must award the Lost bidder. The purpose of the applicable law is to find the Lost technically competent bidder,
not the company who simply submits the Lost bid regardless of its ability to perform. Measure BB also gives the city discretion to award to other than the Lost bidder if it finds the Lost bidder cannot meet the material requirements of the RFA.
And that's the case we have here. There is no comparable experience.
Where is the least experienced residential applicant of the bunch? It only had one residential franchise of any comparable side, South Whittier, which isn't even a municipal contract. It has no comparable transition experience. The schedule here is so ambitious that other companies didn't even bid because as the staff report acknowledges, they needed additional time for the transition. WHERE doesn't identify any SB 1383 transition experience in the residential space, much less experience from a mixed waste to source-separated collection system. There's no discussion over how WHERE will be able to acquire 42,000 carts that would be necessary for a source-separated program, the dozen hauling trucks, the 14,000 new daily lifts. I see that WHERE provided a packet that the public has.
If it actually meets diversion. Again, it is the Lost technically responsible bidder, not just the Lost bidder regardless of anything else. And there's more. WHERE was asked to provide its technical ability in the RFA, didn't do that. It simply provided a boilerplate description of the company, great, and a list of franchises, none of which apply to the city that we have here. where again failed to even discuss diversion plans education and outreach compliance with law food recovery and when we look at the price proposal the one that was brought up before fair where doesn't account for landfill costs and it's tons collected are based on a partial year estimate not even the full year which constitutes nearly a million dollars in costs that aren't even considered Again, are they going to be responsible? And that has nothing to say about other omissions, such as experience or noncompliance, more directly, in the city of Los Angeles. Here's the deal. Measure BB gives the authority to award to Athens. By awarding a source-separated collection program, the city can do so after finding where is technically nonresponsible or competent, or by awarding a mixed waste collection program because Athens is the low bidder and is technically responsible. But regardless, the basic question before the council is whether the city is prepared to entrust its residential trash service to a hauler in the absence of technical responsibility, in the absence of demonstrated competence. South Report doesn't even talk about that. Despite the fact that Ware only served one similarly sized residential franchise, despite the fact that where has no municipal solid waste franchises despite the fact that where itself didn't even take the opportunity to describe its technical ability in its RFA response and again despite the fact that it didn't consider landfill costs or annualized tons. The answer to the question is no. The city should not do that. Award the residential franchise to Athens under measure BB. Thank you.
Thank you. Anthony Hernandez. He left. He left. Thank you. Ed Tsai Tsang, folLod by Charles Stapleton.
Good evening, Mayor Poutin and council members. My name is Ed Tsang. I'm a resident of Monterey Park.
My statements will be very brief, actually.
I'm here to express my satisfaction on the service provided by Athens.
They have done a very good job in providing waste removal services for my townhouse complex.
I can always count on them to show up on trash collection day,
if they're shy or shy.
Their drivers are very friendly and Curtis and one of them even get to know my dogs.
I'm also very happy with their customer service department and they're always
willing to work with me to handle special requests like collecting bulk
item. So in summary, I urge
the council to award the next contract to Athens. Thank you.
Thank you. Charles?
Vincent, did you want to speak on this item? Okay, you're next. Go ahead, sir.
Good evening,
Honorable Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, Council Members. I just came from a giving a college lecture so pardon my speaking and my comments will be brief because the attorney just said most of what I was going to bring out to you on municipal code 16.09 so let me just give you my personal experience I moved to Monterey Park a real estate broker and a police officer in Los Angeles for the safety the quality of the service and the fact that we had a
city council that you could actually speak to when they listen to you, unlike Los Angeles. Although the comparison here is mainly for the safety in the first impression. I bought three properties on Village Drive in Monterey Park, bought the first house, I moved into it, and I was introduced to Athens when I put the trash cans out. We're on a hillside on Village, and it rained, and the neighbor's trash can came down the street and hid into my car.
And just as the trash truck was coming up, the guy got out of the car, helped me move the trash bin from my neighbor, and then dumped my trash.
That began a relationship where on Thursday morning I would know that the one bin, and hopefully it only remains with two bins, is picked up about 9 a.m. And about 1,500, 3 p.m. in the afternoon, the second bin comes around. We greet the driver. It's a friendly atmosphere. But most importantly, they assist when we have problems. When the rain comes and six cans wash down my hill down to Metro, the truck, as it came around, they stopped, and they helped me figure out whose can belonged where and tried to return them. That's the kind of personal service I've come to expect with Athens. And based on that and not knowing the other company, I would encourage you to give the solid waste contract to continue with Athens. Thank you very much. And I was awarded emeritus status at the university today. So thank you.
Vincent?
Vincent Chang.
Thank you. Good evening, Mayor, members of the City Council.
Vincent Chang, former city clerk, retired city clerk.
also I serve as the appointee for Supervisor Hilda Solis with the Rivers of Mountain Conservancy and chair the Water Conservation Authority
I wasn't planning to come up to speak tonight I was actually here for the other one but anyways
oh by the way great question on Taylor Swift very important thank you
with regards to the contract Right. Look at that slideshow. Man, I think how can you not pick?
Where? But the question is, is that really the best choice? Is that the real qualified choice? Right. That's the question we had to ask ourselves. Yes, they're quoting a low price. But we all know the reality is low price doesn't mean the best service. So think about that. We've had Athens disposal as long as I can remember. I've been a resident since the 1980s. And I was there seven years ago when the former city council discussed that matter with the trash contract. Now we're going to go into another seven years. That means for some of you, of course, you're going to go on better things and others will be up for re-election. That's a long time. That's a long, long time. And, you know, my experience, I think, is very similar to what some of the folks have said about the service that Athens provides. Now, aside from that fact, I have to ask the question, what kind of community service or what kind of community benefits do they provide? Okay. One organization, sure, claimed to provide the cheapest. But what have they done? What have they done for the community? Have you seen their name up anywhere? But, you know, the other supervisors, you know, we can count on to make contributions to the women's club, make contributions to the environmental with, you know, their, what do you call it? The, anyways, the plant deals. But I'm not into plants, sorry. But the bottom line is we have to think about those benefits that they provide us. And finally, I think the other thing is the trucks. Yes, they're CNG trucks. But, you know, California as a whole is going towards electric. And the point is, are they going to be ready for that? Is one of the competitors going to be ready to transition to that? That's a very, very expensive proposition. And I know they have reprieve from, you know, having to provide that, like all the other folks running, you know, diesels or CNG trucks right now. They're going to be transitioning to electric. Are they ready to do that? And as well, the other question is, where is the trash being taken to? Where's the landfill? I mean, I know the other competitor has very advanced recycling equipment. Does Ware have that? I don't know. We haven't seen it. So anyways, some of the questions to think about when you're making this decision. Thank you. Thank you, Vincent.
And that concludes the individuals here. I do have four written communications. One from Wong Tai Shen Center, a business on Atlantic. Ed C. Wong, a resident. Dr. Hua Cheng Su of California Medical Therapeutic Center on Atlantic, a business. and Elaine Pang, a community member, all fall-written communications are in support of Athens' disposal, and they encourage the council to adopt the contract, award the contract to Athens' services. The ring communications were sent out to the council, and then they're also on the back in the binder available for the public.
Thank you.
All right. Thank you. And before we start with council comments and questions, I just want to thank everyone for coming out to express your feedback and to share that with the council. Really, we do appreciate that and take that into account. And I know if there might be, I anticipate questions for where and for Athens, if you guys want to position yourselves over here by the podium, I think that might be helpful, but we'll start with any questions and comments from City Council. Councilman.
Sean, is there possible we can go back to the monthly?
That's light. Thank you.
I mean, given, first of all, just to reiterate what the mayor has already said,
I thank you for everyone who came out to share their experiences with our current hauler and also for both of the haulers who are here to represent both of their companies.
To me, customer service is very important,
and I know that most of the discussions that I have are with my wife and my family,
and those are very important to me as well as my constituents. But one of the things that I think is going to drive a lot of the discussion tonight is this cost. Our current cost for a two-cart system is $23.30 a month.
And the new proposed cost, if I understand it correctly, Sean, is $58.04 a month for a two-cart system? That's correct.
And that's more than double the amount, right?
That's correct.
Okay. And then where is, where's bid is, what would be where's bid in terms of monthly cost?
That was their three-card system, right? This is, yeah. The 3860.
The Lor costs are for the three-card system.
They didn't submit a two-card bid.
That's correct. They did not submit for two-card. Okay.
And given the limits of what Measure BB imposes on our city and this council, we are obligated to some extent to select the Lost bidder.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
But also, I guess as we're considering this, and given the outpouring of the community in terms of where the stories and the contributions that Athens has made over the years to this community.
I think it's very important for the Council to know those contributions over the years
and the longstanding history that Athens has had in this community. I guess one of the questions I would have for Athens is a couple questions in terms of the cost, is why the cost increased so significantly. Secondly, given the increase in cost but also the outpouring of support for your services,
would you be
I'm here if you would like me to answer. I'd like to hear from Athens first, if possible. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council Member Sanchez, I'm Gary Clifford. Again, I think those are very good questions. First, I would disagree, saying that, yes, you can. The low price is just one component of your decision, and I hope you take that under submission tonight. Measure BB has some specific requirements that haulers have to match. And again, I think there's more than just the price secondarily, I think that the that the the The three barrel rate that you're looking at is only a nine-month rate It doesn't consider the entire year and I think you heard that in the public testimony So I would tell you this and I and I mean this and this is kind of my expertise I would tell you that Athens services has a $58 rate because 1383 requires that you take a two-barrel system for the recycling to a high-diverting MRF. We're the only company I know that has a high-diverting MRF, meaning you take that to our plant, we are able to pull out more than just the regular recyclables, and in 2025, that converts from a 50% diversion to a 75% diversion of organic materials to the landfills. That's a heavy lift. Nobody else can do that. That's very expensive, and that's why that rate represents that. What I also said to you that didn't get to you was that if I was on the city council, and again, I have that experience, I would pick Athens Services, I would have us do the two-barrel system until a period of time,
and then drop a blue barrel. And I would ask us what those prices are, and I would engage us in a price negotiation.
and I think that's legitimate and within the spirit of Measure BB I believe this city council has the right to talk to Athens, to disqualify the bids, to talk to Athens continue this service and have some hybrid of what was put in I definitely think that we could continue the two barrel system at a Lor rate and when the time comes for the higher diversion MRF, if you don't want to go that method we'll drop a blue barrel And we don't have to drop a blue barrel everywhere. We can do that wherever it's convenient for the residents that want it. So I think you have a lot of flexibility with us. You have the ability to engage us. There's real legitimate reasons for those pricings. But the RFQ and RFP narrowed what we could do to this much. The industry has this much to offer. And I think the other bidders told you that. When you ask questions, I think staff will tell you if you ask them, why didn't more people put in for this? They gave you very specific reasons. We made sure that you were protected from those reasons. We will make sure that pandemonium won't break out when you try to change residential haulers and do all the things that only our company knows how to do because of our experience. It doesn't mean somebody else can't do them. I don't think that the competitor can do that. And I'm telling you that from my heart, not just from my head. And I want to tell you that I do think that you're on to something. with us, come up with some hybrid that meets your residence diversion and a different cost. You can do that. It's legal and ethical following Measure BB. Did that answer your question, sir? Not necessarily.
What caused the increase from 23 to 58?
Because right now you have to take a mixed waste processing two-barrel system to a high
diverting MRF, which is a different type of processing. It's different. So you have to take it to our facility. We guarantee you diversion out of that at a high level, taking out the organic fraction, and that's expensive to do. So we have to take the organic fraction out of the waste stream.
In 2025, which is within this seven-year period, that changes from 50 percent to 75 percent, which is a much more expensive endeavor. So the cost of providing you the diversion at a high diverting MRF is high.
Now, that's not high in the state of California. I mean, if you look up and down the coast, that's probably a median to low price. That's a high price here, but you're getting a high diverting MRF in a two-barrel system.
What I'm telling you is if you engage us and negotiate with us and change that method, that price can come down. But we didn't have that flexibility in the RFP proposal.
So currently, the contract that we have, we weren't doing what you were saying?
Correct.
Okay.
So one of my concerns with the new rate is having to explain to constituents that I'm okay with explaining to constituents that the price increased, given the quality of the service that we're getting.
But double and more than double the rate is extremely high.
and that's I mean as a former elected official
you would understand this
that's a really high rate
to you. So what I'm trying to say
is how can how can this rate
more than double and then number two
are you willing to renegotiate the rate to bring this Lor so that we can obviously please people who've had great service and and have already commended your service,
but also have a reasonable rate that is not more than double. Do you understand what I'm saying?
The answer is yes. The answer is if you pick us with a comparable three-barrel rate, the difference isn't that big because we bid it for 12 months, they bid it for nine months from a standpoint of tonnage. Our bids are very comparable. So it wouldn't be a huge lift going to three barrel. But on the two barrel, we would negotiate that with you. Because what I'm trying to tell you is that maybe the two barrel system goes for a couple years. And then you transition to a three barrel system over time. And that would drive that $58 rate way down. Way down. Probably to less than half of that. I'm just trying to tell you that that $58 rate is a seven-year rate that in 2025 changes from 50% diversion to 75% diversion. And that's a very important key figure in there. And if you decide to drop a blue barrel and change that two barrel, you could keep the two barrel system for two years, drop a third barrel any time at your leisure over the period of this contract, and that rate would fall significantly. And you wouldn't have to have a $58 rate. Just one last question.
Why wasn't a three-cart-barreled proposal submitted by Athens? We did.
Oh. We did, and it's comparable. And what I'm trying to tell you on that one is it is comparable. It's our argument. Go ahead.
No, no, I was just going to follow up with Carl.
Carl, are we able to renegotiate if need be?
Mr. Mayor, members of the council, would you be more specific? There's only one bidder on the two-barrel system.
So if that's what you choose to do.
I think his question is, right, the bids have been submitted. Is there room for negotiation on the current proposed prices?
If the three-barrel system is what the council selects, there's no room for negotiation. Remember, this is a voter-enacted initiative. It's not something that the city council enacted that it gets to interpret from the standpoint of, well, what we really meant to say is X, Y, and Z. based upon staff reports, corporate history, meeting minutes, past conduct. This is a voter-enacted initiative that was enacted specifically for the purpose of encouraging competitive bidding.
So to answer your question with regard to two-barrel,
better.
So really your initial policy call is, are you going with two barrels or three barrels?
and beyond that what the Voter Inactive Initiative says is
if you're going with somebody other than the low bid you have to make specific findings explaining why you're doing that.
Thank you.
May I respond to that sir quickly? Very quickly the answer is yes you can negotiate with us if we're the only bidder as your counsel said but I think what's important is the other things that he said about making the findings I would just like to address that so you know. Right.
So you have two options, right? Option in no particular order, right? Mixed waste, negotiation, much more flexibility
in that context because there's only one bidder. And then as it relates to the three-cart system, as you have the authority to do under Measure BB, you can make a finding that where, for all of the soft reasons we've heard, for all of the reasons in their bid, is not technically competent to serve this city
in this rfa as proposed and if you do that then there's only one bidder and it would be athens for the three barrel option as well at least that's our view mr mayor members of the council
since lawyers like talking uh let me briefly respond to that which is the qualification stage for these bidders is already done and that was done in january there was no objection from any bidders with regard to the qualifications that were made. So the determination of whether or not the bidders that currently bid in this particular process,
that determination was made.
If there is a material defect in the proposal, that is something that the city council can pick up upon. I believe some of the speakers have said that there's a difference between the prices in the three barrel system based upon a 12 month versus a nine month tenage that's a factual determination that I can't speak to but we certainly have our consultants online that can speak to that
yeah so that was my question I want to make sure we set the facts straight and get clarification I've heard more than once now that one definition is for 12 months the other bit was for nine months can I have our staff and our consultant kind of explain that. I want to make sure we're comparing apples to apples here.
So I would actually defer to the hauler. They're the ones that put the bid together. So they're the ones that bid based off of nine months or 12 months. I'd actually defer to them.
Okay, so let's J-Ware with wear disposal again. This has been made up by Athens and the attorney
from a nat there is a factual tonnage amount and athens is short tonnage not where disposal
okay we have 45,240 tons is what we bid on athens bid on 43,762 their short tonnage
we're not short tonnage this is not a nine-month bid that price up there is a year bid okay there's
been a lot of other non-factual stuff brought up tonight. Please defer to me for those because
I can assure you they're providing you bad information about my company.
You're going to get a new speaker from Athens. Joe, yes, I will be quick, but I do want to clarify one thing. There was a statement made that things were supposed to be taken care of in the qualification phase. Now, I am reading directly from 609.070. Applications, that is what was submitted now, applications will be evaluated based on the proposed monthly rates pursuant to the franchise compliance bid specifications, including without limitation, financial and technical responsibility, proposed diversion rates, and a host of other things. So that technical responsibility is a requirement of the application, and that is what we have pointed out.
With respect to the tonnage rates, please note this. There were tonnage rates that were provided in the application, and those tonnage rates were based on an amount of tons from January 1st to the end of September. That is the number that Ware bid on. If you look at their sheet, that bid is at 27,475 tons. That is the amount for the nine months.
when you annualize that rate for the 12 you come up with the 31,664 tons this is on the residential
that is what Athens bid on so their bid by the by the documents in your own staff report is 4,000 tons less because they didn't annualize so that price is off by a million bucks that's
that's math thank you so I know we have other questions but on that specific question I don't know if HFNH or someone can do some quick math maybe I can cut
through that the city council is able to waive minor irregularities I believe the representative from where said that they were willing to to stick with that price with regard to a 12 month schedule so if that's what they're representing We can go through the tonnage and what have you, but if the Council believes that's a minor irregularity based upon the overall price, it can waive the irregularity if it
chooses to do so.
Perhaps a bigger question we need to face is do we have the technical and the expertise
to do this?
documentation of all of that has been provided to you. These trucks were ordered back in January of 2022. On top of that, we have given you letters of commitment from some of the largest waste cart
companies available to help and assist with the rollout and to provide all of these carts in time for the transition which will be in the month of August or prior to that if necessary. Also provided you letters of commitment from the bin container companies. They've already committed to providing all of the necessary equipment to the city for the city. On top of that, all of our ancillary vehicles are electrified vehicles. The only thing we're going to be waiting on is electrified large vehicles and as the time develops and as the time comes we'll be prepared to provide the highest level of technology available. Yes, I understand that change is difficult but again, you've got to have faith in that future. I understand that somebody's losing the contract tonight. I understand their frustrations.
Unfortunately, the three-card system is the way to go. This is what all the other cities have.
Cities have three-card systems and not only is your city going to have the best three-card system, you're also going to have every resident with an organics food waste basket which will
be an add-on to the services to ensure compliance with SB 1383. That's the city's biggest concern. No resident wants to pay $280 a year more for services because somebody doesn't want to put out a three-card system. They didn't bid it. They bid it at a higher rate. My rates are $30. It's what residents want to pay. It's what's considered across the county of LA. My rate is consistent. That 5804 is like no rate any other city has ever seen throughout the county of LA. If you have any other questions, I'm available. Thank you. And to make this a more
efficient process, maybe I'll ask the council members to direct some, if you have questions for staff around this, and maybe
where in Athens, you can take note if there are specific questions, but maybe we hold off responding so we don't have to go back and forth
all the time. But we'll go to council members to continue questioning on this.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
So
based on just what I've heard so far,
my understanding then is that the rate
for under a two-card system by Athens is
$8,004 a month, and it has been explained that because
it is to
I guess
for the cost or to pay for its MERF facility. So then does that mean that if they did not have a MERF facility
that it would cost less?
Because I'm just curious because then does that mean then for where's proposal?
So whatever has been sorted, actually I have a question. So under a three-card system, when all the items are sorted, and so you have stuff in the blue bin, because it doesn't have to be sorted, where does it go?
What happens after that?
Can someone explain that to me? Actually, no, not you.
Someone from where, please?
So when you're dealing with a three-card system, the resident or the business will be then separating materials. Usually organics or green waste will go to either a food waste processing facility or a green waste facility where they will either turn it into mulch, energy, it can be turned into, depending on where it's taken, it can be turned, the organics food waste can be turned into a food for animals. The recyclables will go to a diversion facility where they'll separate out the cans, bottles, glass newspaper. Earlier tonight Athens suggested we didn't have a material recovery facility. Actually their attorney did. He's sadly mistaken. We have a solid waste facility in Orange County called Madison Materials. It's on our website. It's been around since 2002. We process over, we've processed over two and a half million tons of materials and diverted it from the landfill. Anyways, that facility is at a high level of technology using robotics to sort out cans, bottles glass and newspaper mixed paper cardboard so all that material is then diverted and turned into different products and then the last part of it is the black barrel stuff black barrel materials are taken to either a high diversion facility or a press where they can take out some of the other recyclables that are still mixed in with the black barrel or it can be taken to a landfill we have a facility here locally that'll be taking a mixed portion Of the black barrel and processing it for the recyclables
Okay, thank you. And I think Athens want to respond Okay
Thank you councilmember low Athens
Owns and operates the facilities around this city including the pointy hills recycling center and our MRF So we would pick up on the three barrel system that we bid we would take the blue barrel to our pointy hills location We would take the black barrel to our City of Industry MRF, and we would take the green barrel to our City of Industry MRF and then take it from there to American Organics and process it to be composted, all in places that Athens owns. The City of Industry MRF is also a hub and a high-diverting MRF to be able to do the things that were explained earlier. In a two-barrel system, we would take all of the components of the barrel that I'll call the barrel that has the waste and recycling in it. We would take that barrel to our City of Industry MRF. We would run it through a portion of that MRF that's called a high-diversion MRF because we have to get the organic fraction out differently than the trash and the recycling, which is a different component. We would take that fraction of organic waste out at our high diverting Murph and send that to American organics for composting we would take the recyclables out and send that to the open recyclable market To sell on the market and then we would take whatever is left over to our landfill component and do it that way
So there's two different streams We have the mixed waste processing stream with which is a more expensive option
but allows you not to have any extra barrels and allows us to try to get more diversion because we do the work for you. And then you have the three-barrel system where you do the work, and then we just take it to our different recycling centers. Is that clear?
Sure. A follow-up question.
How many municipal contracts do you currently have in the region?
Exclusive municipal contracts, we probably have over 35. just in this region.
Okay. And out of the 35,
what is the breakdown of two-cart versus three-cart?
Off the top of my head, I would say that we probably have five or six mixed waste processing, and the rest are three-barrel.
So out of 35, you're saying that nearly 30 are three-barrel. I mean, I know you approximated three-barrel, but then it's only a small handful that is two-barrel, like us.
That is correct.
And why is that?
Well, because a lot of people like the ability for the higher diversion and to have two barrels and not have additional barrel because they don't have room. And then some people want the flexibility of doing both where they get an extra barrel for recycling and we still process the black barrel or we don't. But what's also important to note is in many of those communities, we do mixed waste processing on the commercial side too. So it's kind of a compilation of the entire city, but some cities recently we've had more. I would say we had about 10, and some cities with 1383 are moving to a three-barrel system and having us decide whether or not we process the black barrel at the processing plant or take it directly to a landfill.
But at the moment, is it correct to say that you have more exclusive municipal contracts in which the service involves three barrels versus two barrels. Yes, and that's why we bid the three barrel model here also Okay, but if I'm not mistaken you did not submit a
Proposal for a three card system. No, we did we submitted as said earlier
We submitted a three barrel where you can you can choose Athens on that one too or a two barrel. We submitted one for both
Yeah, they did submit one for both. So Athens submitted for a two-cart and a three-cart. Ware only submitted for a three-cart. They did not submit for a two-cart.
I see. I'm sorry?
Councilman Lo, is it possible to have Ware answer the same questions? That way we don't go back and forth.
Okay.
I apologize, Councilmember. So the question was, how many two-barrel cart systems do we... How many contracts in cities?
Residential or council contracts in cities do you serve? I service approximately 40,000 residential homes currently
throughout the county of Los Angeles.
You can include Orange County. Do you have any municipal contracts in Orange County?
We don't have any. Currently, we don't have any municipal contracts, exclusive contracts in the county of Orange.
Okay, so the 40,000 customers,
is that through a exclusive contract with the municipal?
With the county of Los Angeles. Oh, you have the county of Los Angeles. I have different pockets of the county of Los Angeles.
My biggest county contract right now for residential services is South Whittier.
I service over 14,000 homes in that particular area,
and we do a three-cart system plus the basket for food waste.
so um does that mean then it sounds like then the unincorporated area is where you
have your customers primarily uh for just residential services i service uh something
in the neighborhood of about 8 000 commercial businesses throughout orange county and los
angeles i have exclusive contracts for southeast los angeles with the count or the city of los
angeles i also service all of west san gabriel valley with commercial services and then i have
multiple contracts throughout San Diego as well as Orange County. I see. Okay.
Again, I apologize, Councilman Lo. I want to compare Apple. So you, so Athens said, I heard 35 cities, and I heard you say 40,000 homes.
For residential services.
For residential. So what is 35 cities number?
I would estimate we serve over 250,000 residential customers.
in municipal exclusive city contracts.
Okay.
I just want to make sure we get apples to apples.
Thank you. Okay. Thank you. And I do have some process questions on the RFP process.
I don't know if. Actually, I do have a full question.
So, actually, to weir. So, let's just say, hypothetical, you know,
Let's just say you happen to be awarded a contract.
So then what would be your timeline? How would you be able to get the three carts to residence? And what would that transition look like?
The transition is going to look...
So I have a commitment letter that you have on your desk there from the cart manufacturing company as well as the bin company.
The cart manufacturing company is a large cart manufacturing company throughout the United States. They'll be assisting us in producing all of the carts, and they will also assist us in the rollout of the carts. We simply gather the information from Athens on all of the streets and addresses that they currently service,
and we facilitate a transition of approximately a 30 day to 40 day period. There may be crossover depending on if the other hauler works with us or not where we utilize their existing carts while we're continuing to transition carts. We are prepared though with the vehicles and the carts. We can always transition the carts early and then the existing waste hauler will service the carts that we lay out. It just depends on how easy it is to work with the other waste hauler on the transition of the actual carts themselves. Carts are basically what happens is as trucks are going down the street, our trucks are following, and we're picking their carts up for them, or they're picking up their carts, and we're delivering our carts. We've done this before in other county pockets with the existing hauler,
and they've been, you know, no one likes to work together, but they have been easy to work with in some of the other areas. So I would imagine that they'll be easy to work with. The contract is a seven-year contract. They don't want to necessarily not have an opportunity to get it back. So they would, you know, everybody works together in the industry. You know, while we'd like to do, while we do like to battle it out, we at the same time have to work together at certain times to make sure the transitions are smooth. The most important is the least amount of impact for the residences, which is what our goal is. Okay. I guess that's it for now. I'd like to hear what... Well, I think to answer Councilman Rouleau's question, too, and maybe directing this a little bit to staff, the process for potential transition, no matter who the caller is, transitioning to a three-car system is going to be a lot, I think fair say. the requirement for once once the City Council awards this
And, you know, I think that Athens and where I've touched on this, it's not going to be an easy process. There's going to be challenges with this. But at the end of the day, where has said that they committed to doing this, you know, different than Athens. If Athens is committed to doing a three-card system, then they're going to be adding that third card. There's still a transition process with our residents. There's still an education process with our residents. So as long as we all understand that we're going to be working together with our community to engage and to educate, then, you know, we'll be able to work through this process no matter which hauler gets the bid.
And I would just emphasize on the transition point, regardless, right, if we move to a three-cart system, regardless of the hauler, it will emphasize your point, too. It's a huge lift, and there's going to be a lot of education required between now and the starting point for when the third cart shows up for every resident in the city in terms of how to utilize this third cart that we have not had ever. and how this whole process is going to work. And it's a short period of time to roll these out and to get everyone on board. And I anticipate that there will probably be a lot of confusion questions from residents and customers. And have we thought about how to address that in terms of additional staffing for these questions or how we would leverage or utilize the hauler for addressing these concerns and making sure that there's robust public engagement and community engagement in the run-up to the start of a new service? Of course.
I think that, you know, to Council's point,
we've always talked about community engagement,
making sure that we're proactive, and so this would be a very proactive approach to make sure that the community is involved, they're educated. Again, we'll do our due diligence to make sure we're with the hauler to educate in multiple languages. Again, we can't guarantee that we'll reach every single resident, but our goal is to do that via social media, via council meetings. we can do additional outreach via these meetings. I know that you have some of your meetings with the mayors.
We could look at doing those type of engagement tools.
So I think whatever opportunities we have to educate and bring this to light to our community, we will do.
All right, thank you. And so taking a step back, the first phase of this process was an RFA or whatever, the qualification process for those that would be qualified to propose and submit a bid. That process included HFNH and our staff looking at, I believe, 10 entities, businesses, submitted their applications to be qualified, essentially. And during that process, can you talk through what we looked at and what we, with the help of our consultants, looked at in terms of making sure that those who were qualified to bid, what those qualifications were, and in a very essential way, whether the firms that were qualified are able to deliver the services we're asking for?
Yeah, again, the highlights, they were responsible for residential services. They could meet the timelines and that they had the proper equipment, the proper access to the carts. So again, all of these things have been stated that can be provided both by Athens and Ware. The proposers that could not meet that or didn't feel they could meet that provided their responses in a way that said they couldn't do that and again Every hauler is different. I can't speak to those haulers. They can't speak because they're not here They they for whatever reason could not bid on it But again based off of those those criteria and based off of what we reviewed based off of what was submitted to the city Those the haulers that were alLod to they were presented to council that were approved by council were the haulers that met our requirements
And then on, I mean, going back to another question that came up, right, in terms of the potential miscalculation or whatever. But in terms of this bid and these rates that are proposed by Athens and Ware, if we award any of them, either of them, the contract tonight for whatever these services are, they cannot exceed what they have proposed if they accept the bid, right? That's correct.
And then there are limitations within Measure BB that limit them on their annual increases as well, which, again, goes back to some of the haulers, why they didn't want to propose on it. Some haulers like to increase the rates beyond CPI. So, again, Measure BB is restrictive in that nature as well, and so that's why some of the haulers didn't want to bid.
Right, so these estimated monthly rates are for the first year, and then to be clear for anyone who may be paying attention, the other six years of the contract, the following six years of the contract, the maximum the hauler would be alLod to increase their rates would be based on CPI for our region. That's correct.
And again, I just want to make sure that I note again that these costs will increase slightly based off our franchise fee. So not much, but they will be increased by our franchise fee.
And the RFA qualifying all of the qualification process for all the bidders, potential bidders, was that they would meet all state requirements in terms of diversion, SB 1383, whatever it is, organic diversion, recyclables, all the 75 percent, the very quickly coming up 75 percent diversion rate requirement by the state, and everything else they got to do, environmental, fleet transition over the next few years, all that stuff, from a very foundational point of view, everyone had to meet those requirements that the state mandates already, right? That's correct. And so if a hauler were not to meet or not able to perform to those standards, what happens?
So I'll defer to Carl on some of the more specifics, but, again, we have provisions within our agreement that allow us to take action against the hauler.
We can impose penalties and fees, or we can ultimately, and maybe Carl will speak this more,
look at doing an emergency metric to bring in a different hauler to acquire our needs.
So I can let Carl speak to anything else, but I might have missed.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. As Mr. Igo mentioned, there are provisions in there with regard to liquidated damages. If they're not able to be able to meet the requirements of the franchise,
There's also a surety which would ensure performance of the bond, or I'm sorry, ensure performance of the franchise agreement.
And in hopefully the unlikely event that whomever you awarded it to were to go out of business for whatever reason, the city would be able to turn around and hopefully make up the delta between whatever the current prices are and whatever the performance bond penalty amount would be in order to correct the pricing for that and ensure that a new hauler was coming in and taking over the routes.
Is there a recourse in terms of poor performance, in terms of customer service, or if there are concerns along those lines, is there anything built in in terms of this contract? So for purposes of the competitive bid, that's not part of the City Council's decision-making process,
but for your peace of mind, the franchise agreements do have provisions in there about customer service, how close physical locations need to be for the haulers, for example, how frequently and how quickly they need to answer the phone and respond to customer requests. Those types of typical customer service requirements, which are in every one of our franchise agreements with regard to solid waste, is in the template for franchise agreements. And to that point, I don't believe that Ware has said that they could not comply with any of those in the franchise template, to my knowledge.
And if, I mean, right, not that this
has happened, but if one of the companies weren't meeting some of those requirements, we do have recourse to fine or issue penalties and to potentially if we deem fit or if the case warrants we could, as you said, end the contract early before seven years and figure out how to continue to deliver service. In another way.
Any other questions? We can go for another round. Council Member, you?
I think we have asked enough questions. I wanted to say I hear you. I love Athens, no question asked. So I love their service, community involvement, two-car system. Even I visit the Athens facilities. They are very clean, very technology advanced. I'm very impressed. So I heard all of your appreciation of Athens service, and I'm also
a bit worried about changing the company, and especially from two-car to three-car system. I haven't used three-car system before, so I don't know how it works. But I'm sure, you know, if we continue to pick Athens, we'll have no problem in service. And I also understand the top quality service does have a price tag. And with the Athens two-card system increased from $5.9 million to $13.6 million,
it's 230% increase, not 23%. It's 230% increase.
It is from $23 a month to $58 a month.
But Ware keeps the similar pricing at about $30 per month. We have a few groups of residents asking for a three-car system before, which I think they think they will do a better job than the trash company. So I want to say no matter how much I love Athens, but I do have a hard time facing all the residents. As council member, we are making decisions for our residents and making sure it is their best interest. Especially, they all voted for Measure BB, which tells us they want to choose the Lor price tag and prevent the council to pick the highest bidder. And if we do pick Athens, I can foresee we will receive a lot of complaints from our residents to Athens and to our council. we will have a very hard time justifying why the trash company increased 230%
from their previous build compared to just 28% increase to change to three card system with wear so that's my two cents, thank you
yeah I have a couple questions and you know what, let's break the ice a little bit, the question I like to ask myself and I don't want anyone to
respond is what's your best and final?
At least I have a couple of cracking voices here. I'm going to ask my same three questions to both of you, and I got pieces of the information earlier, so I don't know where or at this anyone can respond. It doesn't have to be Gary or Jay here. So when I asked earlier how many residential accounts do you have, I heard 250 residential, so how many commercial? 250,000.
250,000 residents. How many commercial?
Half a million or more.
I can tell you that these are exclusive municipal contracts, too. These aren't county contracts. I didn't want that to gloss. That's okay. I just needed, thank you, just the number. I think if you look at it individually, like population, it's over 3 million customers. But the numbers off the top of my head are probably half a million. That's okay.
And then from, I think from where I heard 40,000 residential and 8,000 commercial.
Is that fair? Okay.
That's, again, we're just close enough, right?
My second question is, I'll ask where first and I'll go back to Athens later.
In the last, I'm going to go with the last 10 years. have you done transitions and how many or if you have how many transitions have you done changing from two bins to three bins or just engaging in a new contract in the last 10 years
in the last 10 years we've transitioned over 40,000 residential homes one of them actually we transitioned one of them we actually transitioned to Athens out and then they transitioned us back took over one of the contracts we lost and they transitioned back in but it was a we've transitioned over 40,000 homes so that was the last ten years in the last ten years with three card systems we've actually and and we've also delivered out to those 40,000 homes food waste baskets to each door okay with education and instructions on how to use that food waste basket which goes beyond the three-cart system so we know how to educate for SB 1383 and then with regards to the commercial bins we've transitioned west San Gabriel Valley just recently was our most recent transition we've transitioned the city of Los Angeles and these were all in very fast-paced environments. Some of these transitions were within a 60-day window where we had to transition many of the dumpsters out,
repaint dumpsters, and so on and so forth.
So there's been, you know, some of that movement was extensive and intensive and we were able to accomplish it all with very little issues to any businesses or commercial companies. Thank you.
And then Athens, the same question. How many transitions in the last 10 years?
Again, approximate. Mayor Pro Tem, I take exception to what I hear sometimes because you have to ask the question.
of Pomona recently, just in the last year, tens of thousands of customers, the city of Riverside, huge city. These are municipal contracts that we have transitioned over to the city of Redondo Beach, city of Hermosa Beach. I can just go on and on for the different cities that we have transitioned, and it's a very different discussion. This is a very unique city. It's not a county pocket it's a very unique municipal contract and and just going from two barrels to three barrels is going to be very challenging in this city we have that knowledge we don't it's it's something that we know how to do our three barrel price is not that much bigger uh council member to you just so you know than i'm just telling you yeah that's the question of how many municipal city contracts you've transitioned in the last 10 years. I'm just trying to figure out. I'm trying to, I'm just being open and honest with you, sir. So how many, so you name
probably a hand, more than a hand, probably name six or seven cities. Yes. That equates to how many customers? Customers?
A couple hundred thousand. A couple hundred thousand, okay.
And in our proposal to you, there are very specific. That's okay, that's okay, thank you.
I just want to get through this thing. I just want to make sure I ask the questions in my head when I have it before. And I guess the next question actually goes back to Athens. Language services. What language services do you provide now?
We provide over 100 different languages. Becky speaks Mandarin Chinese. Our people in the street speak those languages.
Our customer service center, which is local here, has over 100 people.
and they speak 100 different languages, and you get that right away when you get on the phone.
In addition to when we're out in the field with you, we speak Spanish, Mandarin, Taiwanese, Chinese, many different languages.
So official written language?
101.
Written?
Yes. Speak and written, yes.
Okay, great. Let's go to where real quick?
Councilman, we supply, I don't have 100 different languages. I don't even know if there is 101 different languages.
I'm not sure Gary knows where, if there's 101 different languages. But I can assure you that I'll provide enough languages here written for the education program
when we roll out our new CART system to all the residents within the community.
They'll have all the necessary languages available, whether it's Mandarin or traditional Chinese, if that's what's requested.
We can do Spanish. We can do English. We can do whatever other languages are necessary.
Jay, the question was, do you currently serve now?
We provide over 15 or 20 different languages.
I don't know what all those languages are, but we're capable of translating all of the necessary languages using translation services that we have via our phone lines and answer any questions that people have.
Thank you. Thank you. All right. I just needed to ask those questions. I apologize. I had a time.
This is akin to going back to the dating game, right? There's a wall here, and I'm trying to figure out what am I picking here. And I had to ask those questions for my benefit, and hopefully the rest of the council heard some of those feedback, because I needed to figure out the size of the company, the competency, the experience, meaning the transitions, and also the technical soft skills, which to me was the language issue here. Because in our city, many of you know, 65% of the folks in this city speak a language other than English. So I just wanted to have that in my bench. So thank you both for addressing those questions. That's enough question for me. I
Have a couple follow-up questions
Number one is how big is your staff like how many employees do you have within your businesses?
Thank you councilmember we have 2,500 local employees just regionally in Southern California here and the yard that's going to serve this particular area has about 350.
And then our corporate yard, which is about a mile up the road from that, has another couple hundred. And it's about 15.
I would say it was a 15 to 17-minute drive here where our facility is.
So 250, you said?
250 at the corporate yard and about 350 at the yard that will handle this.
So, I mean, a total of probably 600, 700 right there.
Okay.
And that includes our hauling division, our abandoned bulky item division, our street sweeping division, and our governmental affairs division.
And are they unionized?
We have both union and non-union employees.
Can you explain that a little bit more?
Yeah, we have particular yards that operate under a union contract,
and we have some work in the city of Los Angeles and in the southeast part of the Los Angeles area that is unionized, and then we have other yards that are non-union. They have the choice of going either way.
Do you have specific numbers, like what numbers of your 600 to 700 staff are unionized and which ones are non-unionized?
I could probably do it better percentage-wise, where if 100% is our total front-line hauling employee association,
I would say probably 25% of them are unionized. 25% unionized? Yes.
Thank you. You're welcome.
And can I ask where the same question?
Thank you, Council Member. That's great questions that you were asking. I have approximately 250 employees out of my drivers, and I probably have about 60 office-type staff.
My 250 drivers, mechanics, all blue-collar workers, they're all unionized.
They're all Teamsters, Local 396. They're very proud of their their team store organization and I work very closely with the Teamsters and
I believe that I have a good relationship with them and I believe that that helps me have a good relationship with all of my My teamster employees. Thank you. And just one more question to follow up
Hypothetically speaking if if you were to be awarded a contract would would you see your company having to expand? the number of employees that you might need to be able to meet the needs of a Municipal City like ours that has a lot of customers. Oh, absolutely
We're gonna be bringing on an office here with an education center For your local residents to be able to access that office not only to pay bills
but to talk to
This the the community staff that will be inserted within this community
We'll have an education center to be able to teach them about recycling or their children about recycling in all different languages, of course
and We will be bringing on additional employees and if there are any displaced employees from
The other provider will be more than glad to take those employees on as well and put them back to work
Thank you. And one more question when you said here in terms of office, did you mean here in Monterey Park? That is actually correct. Yes, Monterey Park
Thank you
Thank you. Actually, a follow-up question.
So currently for where, where do you take the non-diverted waste, where is it taken to?
Um, council member, are you asking about like which landfill, which I guess anything that is not that cannot, you know, that it's not recyclable, you know, that ends up in a landfill.
Where did what what do you do with that?
We take those to diversion facilities. So all the material that we'll be picking up here in the city will be taken to material recovery facilities throughout the Los Angeles area. And those material recovery facilities will go ahead and process that material and then that material once processed will end up either in the landfill or some of it will be taken to a high diversion facility up in North LA. As of right now, but there's no material we'll be picking up that will be going in directly into any landfill. We also have our facility down in Orange County, and we'll be able to process a lot of the recyclables and organics down in our facility in Orange County.
Okay. And walk me through then, again, let's say hypothetically, you know, we were to award you the contract.
then how does, describe a typical trash collection day when it involves three containers?
How does that, how does a typical trash day then would look to residents?
I'm going to estimate that there's between nine to ten residential trash routes each day that trucks will run. And so some of those trucks will run the black barrel, which is the trash route. Then some of the trucks will run the blue barrel, and then those trucks will go to the recycling facility. And then the last set of trucks will run the green waste barrel,
and then they will take that to the organics or the green waste facilities. So how many truck trips per day are we talking about then?
Each truck will pass by a house three times. Three times.
So that means then you have either the same truck or the different truck?
It's going to depend on the routing and the areas that we do.
But let's just say that three trucks will do black barrel. They do approximately 1,000 homes a day. So three trucks will do black barrel. Three trucks will do blue.
And three trucks will do green, let's say, on a typical day. I'm not – I haven't broken it down, but, I mean, in my head, that's what I'm anticipating. It could be 10 trucks or it could be 11 trucks.
But let's just, for ease of, you know, your understanding, I think it's safe to say that you'll have three trucks passing by your home.
I see okay and you could possibly have a bulky item collection truck that would be picking up
the item so you might see a truck like that pass by but usually on only trash day not not on any
other day okay I actually um you brought a bulky item um uh currently um uh if someone I mean your current customers if if someone does have a bulky item for pickup um what is the turnaround time
from when it's reported and it's picked up?
Typically, we schedule it a week in advance. So we'll ask the resident to give us a week's notice and then have them set it out at their curb.
I see. Okay.
Sean? Currently, like, for example, if someone goes on, you know,
go in PK and they submit a PK item pickup,
what is the typical sooner on time?
If they submit to go up PK, it depends
because we may actually pick up some of those items, too. So if they do those items then it could be within 24 to 48 hours. With Athens, I'll let Athens speak to that because again they have drivers that are in the city so they might be able to pick them up within 24 hours. So it's really going to be dependent on how they have their drivers set up.
Do you say typically 24 to 48 hours?
For us. If it's reported through Grand BK and we pick it up as a municipality then we'll pick those up and then we take them to our yard for Athens to pick up later.
Okay, but if I understand correctly like right now with your current customers if someone does report it
It takes a week for pickup. Yeah, so I think what I think what Sean might be talking about is hot zones where you have You know like an abandoned item
What when a resident asks for a bulky item? It's typically a week's pickup schedule a week in advance
Resident because of we haven't put it out on the trash day
Because we don't want it sitting on the street. So we'll typically schedule a week out. I see. Okay. Thank you
if I could actually ask So currently
Under again a two-cart So what so again on a typical trash day? How many
Trokes trips are we talking about? I'm gonna let my operations manager talk to you about that I think it's really important to note. I would ask that you ask for specificity not just it's going to go to here it's going to go to there what facility it's going to go to tried and trusted to facility that you have a relationship with that is going to last for seven years it's very very important and uh we pick up bulkies in 24 hours i'll let david talk to you
about the rest hi thank you uh thank you mayor pro tem uh go my name is david collins and i'm the divisional vice president out of the salt lake hauling yard responsible for the collection in this city I guess to the short answer to you mr. low is we would typically operate about five automatic side loaders within the city and they would make two passes on the two-part system and the reason we can do it with five is the proximity that we are within the city and again the Murphs that we have that are very close to the city probably within like a 15 minute drive so we can make a pass on the on the black and the uh and the recycle take it back to our coi and then come back and grab the other one and take it back to the puente hills murph i see um okay and i think you push it all uh
answer the bulky so typically then what is the um schedule for reporting with bulky item
Typically we pick up a bulky item. It can be as early as within.
to just give us a quick refresher on Measure BB and what we are required to take into account in terms of decision-making by the council.
Why don't I just read it?
So this was ordinance number 2081, and as you know, it was adopted by voters. And I'll go straight to the award, which is in section 6.09.70 of the ordinance.
I'm just speaking out of the ordinance that was adopted by voters.
It may have been recodified at a different number in the municipal code, but this is the way it was presented to the voters. With regard to award, section D says, the city council must award the residential solid waste franchise to a single franchisee, but may, at its discretion, award the commercial solid waste franchise to up to three franchisees. The City Council must award any franchise based upon the applicant proposing the Lost proposed monthly rates to the customer. Such rates cannot be increased on an annual basis by a percentage greater than the percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index for all urban consumers, as calculated by the United States Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics for the Los Angeles, Riverside, Orange County area, all items.
Exception. Findings.
IF THE COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT IT IS GOING TO AWARD THE FRANCHISE TO OTHER THAN THE LoST BIDDER, THE COUNCIL MUST MAKE FINDINGS THAT THE LoST BIDDER EITHER CANNOT MEET MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE FRANCHISE OR MATERIALLY FAILED TO FILE A RESPONSIVE BID.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THOSE TWO SECTIONS. THANKS, CARL. APPRECIATE THE REMINDER. on that I would like to pivot a little bit to the commercial franchise portion of this conversation and I don't know if I'm looking to Sean I don't know who is a trash hauling expert but Sean or HF&H in terms of the it's still relatively significant cost differential that's proposed between Athens and where for the commercial commercial revenue requirement I don't know if there's some I know we go out to bid all the time and there's always a cost of control and there's a whole bunch of different things that could be in there. I'm just trying to understand why there might be or what's driving that, what could be driving that difference between the two haulers. So it's going to be no different than what
the haulers have been talking about. It's really how they process their trash. So it comes down to their processes, where they take it, where they, you know, how their staffing is paid. All those factors will determine how their bids are. I can't tell you what's, how they got to their bids. They they put their business together based off of what they know and so again all those factors they've been talking about today Really tie into the costs and again you can award both Council has that prerogative they can do that based off of measure BB they can they can allow both haulers To take on the commercial side like they do today. They're both providing services. I know Athens pointed out they currently have 90% so again they can still retain that 90% of commercial haulers
and
where it can continue the 10% or they could take on a 100%. It's really up to the individuals on how they want to
choose their provider for commercial services. And then just to be clear on commercial, but also on residential, but really on the commercial franchise agreement, what they have proposed would be the cap of what they can charge, right, or their total revenue they can generate for that given year. they can choose to be more competitive if they want and Lor their actual rates.
On the commercial side? Yes, that's correct.
And then, so just pointing out there. So if we were to award to both, they can adjust their bids or the actual cost of service for commercial accounts. That's correct. Downward if they want. Based on what they're doing today, that's correct. on the bin size this might be a question to the both haulers but maybe you can answer this too sean i believe now currently right residents who may not generate enough trash to fill a 96 gallon bin on a weekly basis can opt for a smaller size bin and reduce their monthly cost or their costs right for trash service is that that's also an option worked into this contract for for customers
going forward based off what I understand yes that's correct do we know kind of generally how
much cheaper would be if they set downsize and they can choose to downsize just one specific
bin or they'd have to downsize all three or two I don't know the cost so I wouldn't be able to
tell you what those costs we just rate random all comparable based off the 96 gallon but we know it
will be it we would anticipate would be Lor if they have a little smaller bin that would that would be an accurate statement knowing that that will continue to okay any
other questions from council can you I don't know if you can do this or like
right in the staff report mentions aft and services proposed for any exceptions the residential commercial agreements. Can you just detail or summarize what that is and what that means?
I wish I could summarize 49. There's various different things in there. Some of them are relations to the agreement. Some of them are minor edits. Some of them are full edits to some of the terminology. There's a lot to go through within that. Again, they've outlined those in their proposals.
and actually in their proposal.
And so, again, that would be up to the city to negotiate through those
to make sure that either the city can accept those changes or that Athens is accepting or not. Because, again, if we don't agree to those conditions, Athens has to agree to that. And so we have to take that into consideration as well. Because that would take time, you know, both on the residential and the commercial side.
There's no holding, you know, their exceptions to either side.
Mayor Wong, just on that point, because they do go to the exceptions, just want to clarify that they are exceptions just like any other municipality,
and it's very, very often that that's something that gets resolved very quickly.
Just one other kind of point as we kind of go through this again. I want to stress that a lot of the promises that were made with respect to transition were based on a packet that wasn't produced to the public.
And then when we go, and I'll be done after this,
when we look at the section that we're talking about award we talked about D and
E excuse me I think we've heard your position on this I've responded to it
and the mayor did not call you up all right well I appreciate Carl again the
reminder about measure BB and and what we are whether where we can argue about whether measure BB is good policy or not and I think there are still a lot of questions that I have about whether it is and right separate from this conversation would love to have staff do some sort of analysis in terms of where our rates are and what the proposed rates and likely rates going forward are going to be and if we can do a comparison to other our neighbors in terms of what rates and whether measure BP if we look at other factors to take into consideration in terms of whether measure BB has lived up to its promise in terms of bringing Lor costs to customers here in Monterey Park for trash hauling services. And I think that analysis will be helpful. Unfortunately, it will not be done in time to make any change to our current process that we need to go through. But I know we've asked a lot of questions around customer service and all these other factors in terms of whether a trash hauler is going to be successful in our community or not. The unfortunate fact as I see it from where I sit is that Measure BB ties our hands in terms of and the voters intent over 12 years ago now was to make sure that we go out to this bid process to open it up and that this council unless there's some sort of material effect or material right defect to a bid
we have to go to
the Lost cost and that's what should be driving our decision for how we choose the next hauler for the next seven years on the residential and commercial side but commercial is more flexibility in terms
of how many we can go with.
That's correct?
Yes that's correct. Again to your point
Measure BBE very specific
And so, you know, unfortunately, even if we did have comparable rates for you today, that's not a process of the decision that council gets to make. Again, that's not council's fault. That's just a part of the process for Measure BB. So, again, we can evaluate those numbers and, to your point, look at the effectiveness of Measure BB. And then, again, but, again, the council has to still abide by Measure BB unless that measure has changed.
Thank you.
Well, let me just go on a little tirade here with Measure BB. So I think the one good thing that came out of BB is such that it allows us to pick up to three on the commercial side. So that keeps everyone in balance. And I'll just reiterate, I mean, the mayor mentioned this. It handcuffs the decision-making of this table from 14, 15 years ago. and if you don't look at it, it's going to handcuff the next set of council members seven years from now, 14 years from now, every time you have a contract. So I think we need to really look into Measure BB. One, because it shouldn't handcuff the decision makers.
You're elected here. We're all elected here to help process the policies for the city and the guidelines,
and this handcuffs us.
I mean, when you look at contracts, money should not be the primary thing. I get Lost price, but when you talk about service, when you talk about quality, especially in the rubbish business, cleanliness and customer care, that all plays into effect. And then you think about the purpose of Measure BB, what it wanted to do 14 years ago versus what it's doing today. It wanted an open bid, open fair business for competitors to come in.
Well, let's look what it did today. So we had 10 qualified bidders to come in.
Then it fell to six RFPs. And of the six, three dropped out because it didn't work. And then you're down to two. And then with two, you have discrepancies. now there's a lot of facts there's a lot of fiction there's a lot of stuff that we need to kind of kind of get through it but that wasn't the purpose of measure bb so i urge my fellow council members to to maybe have staff take a look at it and make a little tweak for the future of bb so that the future as you see faith in the future the future folks don't have to sit through and make this agonizing decision because BB tied us.
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All right.
Mr. Mayor, before we see, because it's 1032, do we need to extend?
Sure. Is that our motion? Okay, yes.
Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to, I guess, per our bylaws, extend the minutes of the meeting to 1130.
Is there a second?
Second.
I mean, we don't have to, but I'm just saying. Second. Well, you got to go. We still have other items on the agenda.
Second of my council member Ngo, or Mayor Pro Tem Ngo will take a vote.
All right. Mr. Nancy? Any, well, I would like to give both of the proposers a chance to just maybe close with some final comments, unless there are other comments or questions from council members. I have a question for Sean and Inez.
I know that Measure BB ties a lot of our hands with a lot of what we do here today.
But do other cities, either within the San Gabriel Valley or locally, have measures like Measure BB that limits who they can...
So this is very specific just to Monterey Park, right?
Yes. and given this
was Athens or any other
Huller aware of Measure BB
and have been aware of Measure BB over the years?
Mr. Mayor, members of the council since I was here when it was enacted
I can say with certainty
that the city council adopted Measure BB and put it onto the ballot specifically to encourage competition because of Athens and we were already in court once with Athens with regard to this particular measure.
So I'm pretty sure it's aware of it. Excellent.
And within that course or time period, either Athens or any other hauler could have potentially led a measure within our city, right,
as we've seen other private entities do in the past, to try to remove Measure BB
and maybe perhaps not be caught in this type of predicament.
Correct. Okay.
Thank you.
Quick question.
Again, Carl or whoever, but so since Measure BB's enactment, this is now the second go-around in which we have used Measure BB, which the voters enacted as the framework for approving a franchise, correct?
Okay. Okay. That's correct. Okay.
Okay. And, you know, maybe I should add on past meetings, but does anyone remember the last time we went through this process, was there also a similar situation in which we had multiple bids?
Does anyone remember that?
Okay. So, yeah, based off of the bid, we actually, we only went on a two-cart system. We didn't evaluate a three-cart system last time. So, again, that kind of restricts the purpose of Measure BB, but that's what we decided to go with at the time.
I see. I see. Okay. I mean, you know, I think, I mean, just, well, first of all,
I just want to thank everyone for being here since 630 on this particular item. I think it's been a very robust conversation about a very important issue, a very important service, which is the removal of waste. And yes, since Bibi's passage, of course, a lot has happened in the state, the country, and the world. And I think that that also probably is guiding a lot of what we are doing tonight, especially when it comes to the issue of waste diversion, organic recycling, and also trying to reduce the footprint of landfills. And having said that, all I can say is that I do recognize that we've had a relationship with One Picker Franchise for many decades, and certainly it's been a long relationship. But as some of my colleagues already have said, this is not the first go-around.
This is not the second go-around.
And certainly, I think for the voters, for the residents, certainly it's what they voted for, what they wanted. And ultimately, I think that it is up to residents whether or not they want to revisit this issue. But having said that, also for those who made bids tonight, especially those who have been with the city for a while, I mean, I think certainly, you know, I heard a lot of, you know, we can, you know, come, we can work with you, we can work with you, but then I think that perhaps that's something that should have been taken into consideration in the beginning of this process, especially as applications were being submitted. I mean, that's just my observation. But, you know, ultimately, I think, as has already been said, you know,
what we do up here on the dais,
we are conduits to our residents, and therefore
if they've established
a framework, that is something that we need to respect and observe.
And that's just my two cents. Thank you.
If it's okay, if the council is okay with this, I'd like to offer just a few quick minutes. I do mean few quick minutes for each for where in Athens maybe to just offer some closing comments if you want and then we'll maybe close it out with any council comments from there well good evening at this late hour and so I'll make this brief again Jay where with where disposal I want to thank you again for the process while I can appreciate BB I understand what it stands for and as a resident I understand what they're looking for Council I want you to know Council and Mr. Mayor I want you to understand I understand what the city is looking for I understand what the residents desire and what they deserve and I can assure you my name is on the side of those trucks for a reason my parents started the company in 1968 they still are involved in the business and they trust me to make sure that I service my businesses, I service my residents, and I service the cities or the communities that we service. It doesn't matter if it's a county area. It doesn't matter if it's a city area. It doesn't matter if it's a sandwich shop or the resident down the street. They're going to all be taken care of with the kid gloves that they deserve, and they're going to be serviced. And if there's an issue, I'm always available. I'm involved in the business day-to-day. I'm involved with my employees day to day I'm involved with the Teamsters day to day and therefore you can assure yourself that by making the decisions that you're going to make tonight, they're going to be the right decisions by choosing where disposal. We are the right choice for your future and that's what the residents desire and that's what your commercial businesses desire as well we're looking to get that exclusive franchise tonight for the commercial businesses that's what the businesses need is a Lor price. That's what's going to help them move into the future as well I thank you again. Have a good evening and I look forward to your vote
Mr. Mayor, I'm just gonna take two seconds to let Brandon young finish I think it was a kind of an unprofessional and flippant comment to say that you're in here because of Athens services and measure BB I don't think that that was a True depiction from your city attorney as to why measure BB is here measure BB was a voter initiative that Monterey Park did. Athens had nothing to do with it, nor would we ever want any city to have to do that. So because of that statement, and because I think you're being misrepresented on focusing on one part of Measure VB and not the whole thing, I'm going to ask Brandon to
finish it out for us. Thank you. I'm going to read a question that was asked in the RFA. How will the city evaluate the relative technical merits of each proposal
if the city will only award to the Lost bidder. That's what we're talking about today. The question was presented to bidders.
The answer, for the Municipal Code Section 609, applications will be evaluated based upon proposed monthly rates,
compliance with bid specifications, including without limitation, financial and technical responsibility. The threshold issue is technical responsibility.
I hear that you think your hands are tied they're only tied in so far as your discretion to determine whether or not you have a technically responsible bidder
and the bidder we had here today relied on letters commitments things that weren't even submitted as part of their bid to demonstrate their technical responsibility what does that tell you about their bid thank you
In closing, I just want to tell you that we are grateful and we appreciate the 60 years of service that we've given to this community.
We hope you're listening to what we said.
We've been the utmost professionals. We've done our best job.
And I just want to tell you that we appreciate your consideration tonight.
We're hoping that you choose two commercial haulers,
and we're hoping that you consider picking Athens to be your residential hauler and work with us to mitigate that rate, if that's your concern. Good night.
I'll just, before we, I open it up for a motion or any further comments, I just want to express, again, my appreciation for both Ware and Athens, for one, your professionalism, and for all those residents also that showed up tonight to express your feedback and provide your input into this process. I appreciate, I know the council and the city appreciate everyone's involvement in this and the interests among the community in this important endeavor. And trash, right, if this goes wrong, right, we're all in a lot of trouble in terms of trash not getting picked up on time. And trash is an essential utility that people underappreciate more than other utilities. This is me working for another utility. And so this is extraordinarily important. This is a huge decision, I think, for the council and for the city in terms of making sure at least the next seven years that our residents and our businesses and other customers here in the city are serviced properly. From everything I can tell, this process went off as best as I don't know that there's ever a perfect process, but I know that a lot of due diligence and a lot of work went into getting to this point and appreciate everyone's effort, both on the staff side in our house, HMH and the proponents or the proposers and everyone from the public as well that has come to participate in this process and appreciate everyone being professional about this and working with the city through this process over the last few months with that is there a motion from the council in terms of how we want to move forward on this item do we have to go in this order or can we go
out of the
Mr.
members of the council I think is an initial item you should decide whether or not to go with the
two or the three system because those are the two
options in front of the council and then you'll have a clear
path forward after that
I was going to make the commercial
you were asking about ordering you can do
whatever order you want to on the agenda.
So I'd like to propose that we go with the allowing on the commercial side, allowing the three, I know we have two bidders, but allowing up to three bidders on the commercial side. So that would be my recommendation because I think having multiple companies in our city allows
Thank you. All right. The, I guess, tougher question. Is there a motion on the residential?
Okay, then I would like to make a motion to award an inclusive franchise contract for
a three-card residential waste collections and recycling service to ware disposal.
Is there a second?
I Can our motion a second is there any further discussion if not we'll call the vote
We have a split vote
Councilmember Sanchez. Yes councilmember you you yes May a pro tem. No mayor Wong. Yes councilmember low. Yes motion passes
Thank you. So I will add as we move on from this item, again, thank you to both Athens and Ware and the residents for showing up tonight to weigh in on this item. We had some discussion during this item about Measure BB and potential adjustments to it going forward in the future. If my council member colleagues are amenable to that, maybe we can provide some direction to staff to start to look at what changes we can start, doing an analysis and comparison of our current rates and what Measure BB or our current going forward contracts might mean and doing a comparison to other neighboring cities and whether Measure BB is actually living up to what it should be in terms of bringing Lor costs and good services to the city and if there are any ideas for adjustments to Measure BB to live up to its actual promise from 12, 13 years ago. If that's amenable for the council, maybe that's clear direction for staff to bring back to the council at some point.
Sure, we could evaluate that.
Especially moving forward,
and especially because as state law and regulations continue to evolve on waste disposal.
Yeah, just to point out,
I mean, we can definitely evaluate those things. We can look at, you know, the impacts, but again, something for council to think about
is that no matter what information we provide, the measure is the measure. So we'll give you the data, and then at that point you can make a decision on what you want to do with that data.
Just real quick, I also want to add that there's also another item on this for HF&H to extend their contract. So I just want to make sure that you also make a motion on that.
And about budget allocation. And a budget allocation.
Yes, so items 2A, number 3, and number 4 for consideration. Just, yeah, there's other items on there. But I will note, Mr. Mayor, members of the council, I understand the direction from council as far as an analysis to the best of our ability with how Measure BB is working and taking into consideration these other things that you'd like to consider, customer service rates and the like.
So definitely.
Thank you.
So I'll make that motion to allocate $60,000 for the cost for HFNF's consultant group.
Is there a second?
Second.
Any further discussion? If not, we'll call the vote. Approved unanimously.
Thank you. All right. Anything else on 2A?
If not, we'll move on to consent calendar.
do any council members want to pull items from consent
3e
3e
sorry 3h
3h 3h
actually was 3e pulled no 3h and anything else
actually just for a quick
discussion 3E or staff report
yeah
alright 3E
anything else
3D for quick staff update
3D
3D, 3E and 3H anything else
if not is there a motion for the remaining items sorry just to clarify I want to make sure because we didn't hear it correctly last time
So, Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, the items that were pulled are 3D, as in David, 3H, right? The True Memorial Program.
Okay. And, oh, what did I miss?
3E. Oh, and 3E.
Yep. 3E. 3E. Okay.
Got it. Thank you. All right.
Is there a motion for the remaining items?
Move to path remaining non-port items from the consent calendar.
Second. Is there a second?
Second. Council Member U.
All right. Any further discussion?
If not, call a vote.
Proof unanimously.
All right. Let's do 3G for a quick report.
Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, this item before you, so just to summarize, We did have a public meeting on February 3rd with our city council to do strategic plans, strategic planning discussion for goals and objectives for the next 12 months. So after that discussion, we have attached the responses that we collected from that day and working back with city staff and what we feel that we can manage for this next 12-year period. This is what we're proposing tonight. So the attachment has the spelt out goals and objectives for your consideration tonight. If there's anything that you'd like to add or adjust, we can still do so.
Thank you.
Questions from Council members or comments?
I'll just make a quick comment. Thank you, staff, for organizing the day and also to kind of not just brainstorm, but put together the dots for our next three year, five year plan. It was a pleasure doing that. And I think it keeps our city moving forward.
I would just add my appreciation as well for all the work that went into this. I know we had a long day, that day to put this plan together and these priorities. I would just suggest if the other council members are amenable to this, under goal four for infrastructure and facilities, maybe we can add I would love to see us add a bullet point on the Metro 710 funding implementation making significant progress to receive those funds and to
start to program and make plans for for the significant transportation corridor
improvements that are supposed to be part of that I would support that if no objection maybe we can add that and if if there are no other comments or suggestions there is a motion to approve the strategic plan and these goals with
that inclusion I will make that motion there a second second by council for you
if there is no further discussion we'll call for the up.
Approve unanimously.
Thank you. All right. Let's move to item 3E, ad hoc committees, Atlantic Square land uses.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. I'll take this one since it's joint from Inez and myself.
We'll give her a rest from talking.
This is an ad hoc committee related to the TRC proposals that the council has talked about in depth at the end of last year, at the beginning of this year. the ad hoc committee that's being proposed would allow TRC to provide a presentation to the ad hoc committee TRC's concern was that some of the information was presenting was proprietary and or had confidential financial information in it and so the best way to try to find the middle ground if you will was to have presented to a less than majority of the City Council in private circumstances and that's what's being presented here tonight. Happy to answer any questions.
And just so that I'm clear,
this is a meeting with TRC, Mayor Wong, and myself. And what other staff
will be there? Whichever staff you would like.
Okay.
Okay, excellent. And
before this meeting occurs, is TRC
aware
that this council, in particular this council member is looking for substantive and concrete information at this meeting
to be able to move forward.
I think the city manager can confirm that I made that point very clear.
And is TRC aware that our patience is running very thin and that particularly this council member feels that this particular area of their property has been negligent and that we expect a lot more from them in particular residents of District 3?
I think the city manager could confirm that I've made that more than
abundantly clear. And is TRC aware that we are expecting a timeline that of when if they are presenting substantive stuff that this council in particular this council member is looking for a timeline of when these things will or whatever
they're planning to do with the northern part of their of their shopping center
will have not just a timeline, but a very, how should I say it,
should be done in a quickly manner,
given the amount of time that they've had with this area being vacant and negligent.
I think what has been related to the TRC representatives is if Council Member Sanchez and Mayor Wong are not convinced that they're serious about things, that the entire discussion will fall apart and we will be back in terms of issuing legislative subpoenas.
Okay.
And they are very well aware that if we are not satisfied, that those legislative subpoenas will be in our next agenda here.
I don't think I've used those words,
but the implication has been very unambiguously conveyed.
Okay. and that we don't want our time wasted.
Council Member Sanchez, myself, and Assistant City Manager Diana Garcia have attended several meetings with TRC, and all of those messages have been conveyed very clearly. They reiterated to us that they understand that the city, the city council, the community, their patience has run out with the timelines,
like to see action.
And so we believe that allowing the ad hoc committee, including yourself and Mayor Wong would be helpful to facilitate that discussion so that you can hear directly what their plans are.
If I may, Mr. Mayor, members of the council, I should point out that we have made progress from a number of different angles with TRC representatives. Amongst other things, TRC did make a $50,000 deposit with the city with regard that we can draw against in order to process whatever land use applications are being made. We did execute a reimbursement agreement with TRC, and we did execute a confidentiality agreement with regard to the presentation. With regard to the last part, that happened very quickly within 48 hours. So I would say that those results are encouraging, and I think that the mayor and yourself should ask very probing questions in the presentation. and I hope and expect that TRC will put on its best game.
Thank you.
And thank you for that update. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor, I just want to again thank yourself
and Councilman Sanchez for serving in the ad hoc committee with our city manager.
And I think that, you know, certainly, of course, this is something that is very close to our colleague, Mr. Sanchez's interest because it's a district, But again, since we are a city, I mean, I think it's clear to everyone that regardless of what district you live in, there's an interest on seeing some movement on Atlantic Village. And I think that certainly I think it's a sentiment that's shared by all of us that if there is no movement, then I think it behooves us as council members to take some type of action so that residents can be rest assured that we have their interests looked after.
And just one parting observation. I think that the team that the city has put together, the council will be very pleased with. It is an experienced outside team that has had very frank discussions with the TRC representatives in terms of what would potentially work and what would potentially not work. We wouldn't have wasted your time with this particular item if we didn't think that there was progress to be made.
Thank you.
Well, I'll go ahead and move then we pass item 3.
Moved by Councilmember Sanchez, seconded by Councilmember Yu.
Any further discussion? Hearing not, I'll just note that message received, Councilmember Lo,
and I think Councilmember Sanchez and I will dutifully convey your message
and bring back to the council hopefully very good news soon. We'll call the vote. APPROVE.
MOVE TO ITEM 3H, TREE MEMORIAL.
DO WE NEED A STAFF REPORT OR DO WE HAVE COMMENTS? SURE.
Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Portem, members of the City Council. Robert Aguirre, Director of Recreation and Community Services. Tree Memorial Program, we opened nominations back in February and we received one nomination from Council Member Van Gogh to nominate Lonnie and Hans Leung for their contributions and betterment to the community of Monterey Park community. Following the nomination period, there was an ad hoc committee that was put together comprised of recreation and park commissioners and and community participation commissioners. At that meeting, it was voted unanimously to honor both Lonnie and Hans then with a tree memorial. And so unfortunately, Hans and Lonnie are not able to be here tonight. They are actually celebrating their 21st wedding anniversary. So they do send their wishes to everyone, and unfortunately, they won't be able to be here tonight. So they were voted on unanimously to recommend them for a tree memorial.
And so I'm here tonight to recommend the city council approve of their nomination for a trip tomorrow. That completes my staff report. I'm available for any questions.
Yeah, I bring this up because I'm so excited, you know. And thank you, Mayor Pro Temko, for nominating them. And I'm very excited, you know, and I know them since 2019 when I ran for council. And they are such lovely couples. And very positive and well-understanded community. Hans is like my big brother. And he observed all council when we were on council and reminded me on things how to be a better council member. So I always remember his advice. As for Lani, she's such a selfless person who always put other people first. Whenever I see Lani, she's nonstop helping others, let's say taking pictures, moving chairs, and giving out water. She has such a kind heart. And one thing I really like about Lani is that she's not afraid to speak up. and if you see things not fair or unethical. So she gave me a lot of encouragement, and I'm sure that if you get a chance to know her, you will love her. So I just wanted to express my comment. Thank you so much, Mayor Potempo. Thank you.
Mr. Mayor, also just to add, I also want to just also just add to what Councillor Yu said. You know, when she and I were sworn into the City Council in 2020,
along with Fred Sonoso, heaven rest his soul,
you know that was of course the beginning of the pandemic and I think that you know both Hans as well as Councilman Peter Chan I mean but you know they helped make that transition which was then a new city council facing a lot of challenges and so certainly you know we want to thank former Mayor Hans Liang for being that leadership during that transition time and of course behind every great leader
and even greater woman.
And so I think that, you know, if Hans has done a superb job it's because he's had a strong
pillar of stability, which is Lonnie.
Any other comments from Council members?
I think Hans and Lonnie may be listening in, so I just want to say thank you
for your service to the city.
For Hans, it goes way back before City Council. He served on the Parks and Rec Commission, the Planning Commission. After council, he served on the Mario Park Healing Fund Advisory Board.
He served on the Asian Youth Center.
He continues to be a very valuable member of our city. And then, of course, Lonnie, kudos to her as well. she actually coordinated the hair donation process for the American Cancer Society a few years back does a lot of language translations for library for city helps with the Chinese school as well as volunteers for the library so I can't think of a better couple that has served our city so So thank you and congratulations Hans and Lonnie.
I'll go ahead, Councilman.
I haven't known Hans that long, but in the short amount of time that I have known Hans
and Lonnie, they've been an amazing pair that I've really enjoyed talking to.
Even to this day, every time I run into Hans, he always has a joke or a funny story and and always wears a smile on his face. So I really appreciate it, not just the friendship that he's offered, but also his commitment to our city and for serving our city. So Hans, if you're listening, thank you so much for your service and congratulations. And I also want to thank Council Member Ngo for nominating them.
Thank you.
So that I'll make the motion.
I'll add my appreciation for Hans and Lonnie. I've known them for well over 10 years as well, very deserving. and Hans and Lonnie have both served the city extraordinarily well. I was happy to support this and honored. We'll be glad to join in this nomination, or the approval of the nomination for a tree memorial for both of them. Just to be clear, are we talking about one tree for both of them or a tree for each?
It'll be one tree for both of them. All right, we'll have to share.
So I think there was a motion from Council Member Ngo,
Second by Councilmember Yu. Any further discussion? Hearing none, we'll call the vote.
Approved unanimously.
While we're on the topic of the tree memorial, I'd like to nominate from the days Lily Lee Chen, who I don't believe has been honored before. If we can check that. I don't believe she has. But if there's interest among the council, I think she would be very worthy of being. Oh, sure.
I'm surprised we haven't said it.
Really? Yeah.
As far as I know, she has not.
Mr. Mayor, members of the city council, I don't believe that.
I'll double check, but I don't believe she has been honored yet. I'll double check it though.
If it's the direction of the council, we could pair an item to bring back at a future council meeting for that consideration.
Okay. All right. Thank you.
Okay. We are done with consent calendar, right? All right, and we did public hearing for 4A. Last item is 5A, business attraction program. Staff report.
Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. The last item before you this evening is consideration and direction for a business attraction program for the city of Monterey Park. In 2014, the California legislature adopted economic opportunity legislation that allows use of public funds to promote economic development.
To advance the strategic plan goals adopted by council tonight, the city council may direct the city manager and city attorney to draft a business attraction program
that could do such things as issue economic development subsidies,
such as a bond, a loan, or incentive to local businesses
for the purpose of stimulating economic development in our city.
This evening, we're asking for initial direction from council on this item,
Specifics for any business assistance program would be brought back to council at a later meeting
and formally adopted following a noticed public hearing.
A preliminary budget would also be considered at that time with funding methods, sources, and amounts.
I'm available for any questions. Thank you.
Thank you. Any questions? I do. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Tell me, how did this, you know, in the consent agenda, we just approved an ad hoc committee for, you know, for the mayor and the council members of Sanchez, with TRC for Atlantic Village. How would this tie into our discussions about, I guess, attracting businesses?
Mr. Mayor, members of the council, I'll jump on that one. really this is the 30,000 foot overview in terms of the city council's policy making decision about whether or not you want to proceed with drafting something and the outlines of what that might be. So what the staff report outlines are the types of things that the council could do, which includes, for example, acquisition of real property for economic development purposes and what have you. Now, with regard to that one that I just described, that doesn't necessarily have to be in a plan. It can be on a case-by-case if there's some sort of property that's available that is recommended for acquisition for economic development purposes or what have you. Really, the 2014 legislation was the state legislature's attempt to replace redevelopment. And so it enacted these series of various statutes to put into place what it had taken away. and alLod cities for the first time to be able to use general fund monies in order to do the same types of things that redevelopment agencies did within the confines of what the statute allows. To answer your question, there may be opportunities in Atlantic Square that the council could identify as part of this program, and certainly there are other opportunities throughout the city where that same opportunity might be available. that includes loans grants microloans all sorts of things where as long as obviously there's a political will and there's funding for available for those types of things the city could engage in in promoting economic opportunities and development okay thank you
all right uh i would just offer if there are no other comments from the council uh appreciation to staff for coming up with this. I appreciate that we're growing our toolkit of economic development tools that we can help to use as incentives and opportunities to attract businesses and support businesses here in the city and economic growth. I appreciate that this folds into the strategic plan and the goals we just approved. I fully support this and would ask and urge staff to continue looking at what other tools we can explore to bring on board and especially as we are going very soon into budget discussions and budget season for the next fiscal year for the city to make sure that we're keeping this in mind in terms of how we want to resource these potential tools going in the the year budget year ahead and years ahead and would love to see us integrate this these tools and others that might be available to us into the budget going into next year and if if if there are no other comments from the council I don't know if we need a formal motion or if that was enough direction from the council for this to be brought back more formally do we need a motion
so is there a motion yes I'll move to approve item 5a under new business is
there second motion by councilmember low and a second by councilmember Sanchez any
further discussion hearing none we'll call for the look and I think council below has an X I don't know maybe it's out whoops let me read let me clear the
board okay all right I'll call the vote approve you Nancy there we go don't want
to leave them behind all right we're done with our items we'll move to close with city communications future zone items any comments from council members Councillor Sanchez.
Sure.
I'll be very brief because I lost my voice.
I'm just regaining it back and trying to not lose it again.
But I just wanted to share on the 18th of March,
several of us had an opportunity to attend the community engagement meeting
at Brightwood Elementary School. regarding the possible pedestrian improvements on Floral Avenue,
which brought out some residents, a very healthy discussion about how that would look like, how we can improve Floral Avenue to make it more pedestrian-friendly, slow down traffic,
possible
what's it called
crosswalks
on floral expanding sidewalks
so a lot of healthy discussion
I live in that area so I know that it's an area of interest for me so I'm very appreciative
of Sean thank you for and your staff for
leading that discussion and also
for the
you know grant work that you guys are doing to try to be able to get the funds necessary to make that project a reality
So thank you so much for the effort and also for continuing to engage the community on that particular issue
and then after After the meeting actually I left up north with my students That's where I lost my voice from cheering so much as I shared before
I'm the academic decathlon coach at Alhambra High School
and our students did amazingly well the best students have done in our school district
they took third place in state which is quite the accolade
Keppel got fifth place last year so Alhambra got third place this year
so very very proud of our students
and the amazing work they did
during the super quiz competition
and he took second place and beat out the reigning champions, Granada Hills,
and almost defeated the champions by one point, almost defeated. Wow.
Yeah, they were one point behind. One point, goodness.
I know.
So a lot of amazing accolades by the students.
They actually came earlier in the meeting and said, I should have the trophy next to me.
And I said, no, I told them to take it home with them because it was theirs.
And so here it is.
and I told them they need to come and pick it up
because I'm not taking that home.
But, excuse me.
Anyhow, very extremely proud of them
and that was a whole week up in Santa Clara with them.
Thank you.
And that's it for me.
Thank you, Councillor. Councillor Lo?
Yeah, thank you.
And again, Councillor San...
the LA County Division for the League of California cities along with the mayor and it was in conversation because it was one of the topics was retail theft and that's something that's probably been on all of our minds as well as the legislatures and I think it's an issue that probably will continue to be a conversation throughout the state. Also I attended the Read Across America event at INET Elementary Schools with several of my colleagues here, and it's always a joy and delight to just share the gift of literacy and to encourage literacy and reading to families in our community.
Let's see.
Also attended on the 19th in the State of Temple City
the oath of office for their incoming council members among the new incoming council members was Ed Chen,
who is very involved in the community,
and so certainly we congratulate him on taking the oath of office. He was formerly a school board member as well in Temple City Unified,
and so certainly we congratulate Council Member Chen
as well as his colleagues who are returning to the city council as well as those who retired as well from the city council as well, attended the March meeting for the LAX
roundtable
in which we continue to discuss ways in which
we can address
concerns about airplane noise
and so it's ongoing conversation
several cities that are part of the roundtable
continue to have attended
a similar to Mike Fong's women's history event
in which
one of the honorees was Nina Locke with Chinatown Service Center,
and it's for her work with the Hope Community Visility Center.
Again, we thank Chinatown Service Center for being our partners.
Also attended on the 18th as well,
the Floral Avenue Improvement Project. Again, we want to thank everyone in the community who attended, as well as yesterday, attending Mayor Wong's meetup
at Bellevus Delmetry School.
And again, thank you, Mr. Wong, for your leadership.
And that's it for me. Thank you.
For me, last Friday, I attend the League of California City Revenue and Taxation Policy Committee meeting. Glad to meet the other mayors and councilmen from all over California.
So it's good to learn new policy that involves in the decision-making process.
March 16, Saturday, we had a great time celebrating Pedro and Pac Chang on their 50th wedding anniversary. So it's called Golden Wedding.
I'm sure they will be celebrating the Diamond Wedding soon in 10 years. So congratulations.
Last but not least, last March 12, I attended the Rosemead Council member installations. Polly and Sean were elected without opponent. So that means they don't have to run a campaign. I told them I'm jealous. But anyway, so yeah, that's all for me. Thank you.
All right, I'll try to wrap this up too. So a lot of the events we attended together with the fellow council members, Read Across America, I actually got a chance to read at both Hillcrest and Inescu, and then that evening celebrated AUSD's Founder's Day event at the St. Gabriel Hilton. On the 10th was the last New Year celebration, and that was at the city of San Marino. because they had those earlier but it got pushed to the end but that was now the last of all the celebration and actually they brought in quite a number of people at Lacey Park it was it was pretty amazing for the size of that park
March 12th was the Rosemead reorganization and then March 19th with the Temple City reorganization we attended our neighboring cities and congratulated the council members, mayors, and elected officials. Then on the 23rd, attended a Chef Tony opening in Hollywood, and then that afternoon attended the API Women's History Makers elected women's officers at 88 restaurants.
So that's it for me.
Right. Attended many of the same events. I want to congratulate Councilmember Sanchez, Coach Sanchez, for his and his team's great performance at the Economic Decathlon for the state. Looking forward to first place trophy probably next year for him and his team. On March 7th, I was at the SCAG Joint Policy Committee meeting where we discussed the revised environmental impact report for the Connect SoCal plan, the SCAG RTPSCS, the Regional Transportation Plan, Sustainable Communities Strategy, which is every four-year requirement for SCAG as the metropolitan planning area for much of Southern California to lay out transportation and other housing planning for the entire region. So that process is getting to a point where it's going to be coming for SCAG's full approval in the next few months. actually I think May or June or this year.
On March 7th, I also attended the Cal City's LA Division Dinner. Well, it's a very robust discussion around retail theft and how to address it. I believe we are, our police department, is part of the retail crime theft task force that's been convened by LA County and other police departments. Glad to see that we're engaging in that fully and look forward to how else we can support from a regional perspective addressing the rise in those kind of crimes.
I know a series of employee appreciation events have been happening for this whole month. I know Taco Bell was last week. I got some pizza this week. So I just wanted to express my appreciation for all that our city employees do and the underappreciated nature of much of your work when you as civil servants do your job well residents generally don't notice don't have to notice and don't have to pay attention to what's going on and so a lot of our work and your work is at City Hall and the departments here goes underappreciated because you do such a good job and so appreciate as the mayor and I think the council wants to appreciate and show at least a token of our appreciation for all the work that you put in as civil servants and as City Hall workers so thank you so much and it's great great that the city leadership is providing some of some small token of appreciation for your work and I look forward to to more is there another there might be another one coming up but I don't remember no pizza yeah the we had four in March we had it
It was tacos.
It was Jim's Bakery gave us a donation for pastries, pizza, and what's the last one?
Oh, coffee. That's right, coffee. We did coffee day.
So we did four appreciation events in March, and we had a recognition committee from staff that actually worked together to do those events. So, yeah, we will definitely continue to look for other opportunities to make sure our employees feel appreciated.
Great.
No, appreciate that. on March 22nd also attended the Cal Cities League of California Cities Committee Policy Committee meetings I was in the Environmental Quality Committee meeting very robust discussion around water conservation mandates that are coming down I know the state board just passed somewhat looser requirements but still pretty ambitious goals in terms of reducing water use and average kind of household per household kind of water use going forward. And some of those mandates coming up pretty fast in the next few years. So look forward to what we need to do as a city and our water utility to meet those needs and those mandates going forward and a very robust discussion around energy as well. Don't know if I missed anything else, but just in terms of wrapping up some of the items today, particularly the trash contract, I know this goes without saying, but I will say it anyway. We just ordered a new vendor for residential waste hauling services for the next seven years. I trust that staff is going to move expediently to work closely, hand in glove, with our wear disposal going forward, and especially the next few weeks to finalize a transition plan. I would like to request that presentation, once that plan is in place, hopefully soon, that presentation happened to city council so that we can be aware of what is going to happen the next few months to make sure that this transition is as smooth as possible not only going from two cart to three cart system very quickly but also transitioning to a new hauler with a whole new different customer service system and all that stuff as well i know there won't be as much of a change on the commercial end but really on the residential and making sure that this transition to a new hauler and a new system goes off as much as possible without a hitch, I think is a huge priority for all of us. And so whatever else we need to do, if we need to resource that transition properly, let's bring that to the council and pay very close attention to what needs to happen there. And with that, I'll just remind council, I believe we're going to be canceling the next regularly scheduled council meeting on April 3rd. But we will have our second regular scheduling meeting with a very packed agenda. So just get your rest in and be prepared for another long meeting on April 17th. I'm doing that math right. All right. And then any other closing comments? If not, we will adjourn the meeting right on time. Thank you so much. Ah, yay.
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