City Council Work Session (Meeting video starts at 2:33:45) — June 16, 2026

! And we have two proclamations this evening.

! We will start with declaring the month of July 2026 as Park and recreation month. ! If you would like to support this proclamation please come on up.

And you're accepting, right? And you're accepting, right? Oh, okay.

You're speaking. Okay, great.

All right, looks like we're all here. Okay, we'll get started. Okay, whereas parks and recreation is an integral part of communities throughout this country, including the city of Fort Collins. And whereas Parks and Recreation promotes health and wellness, improving physical and mental health of people who live near parks. And whereas Parks and Recreation promotes time spent in nature, which positively impacts mental health by increasing cognitive performance and well-being and alleviating illnesses such as depression, attention deficit disorders, and Alzheimer's. And whereas Park and Recreation encourages physical activities by providing space for popular sports, hiking trails, swimming pools, and many other activities designed to promote active lifestyles. And whereas park and recreation programming and education activities such as camps, swimming, youth sports, and out-of-school time programming are critical to childhood development. And whereas parks and recreation increases a community's economic prosperity through increased property values, expansion of the local tax base, increased tourism, the attraction and retention of businesses, and crime reduction. And whereas parks and recreation is essential and adaptable infrastructure that makes our community resilient in the face of natural disasters and climate change and is fundamental to environmental well-being of our community and whereas the City of Fort Collins recognizes the benefits derived from parks and recreation resources now therefore I am Lee Francis mayor of the City of Fort Collins do hereby recognize July 2026 as Park and Recreation month

Take a moment, if you will, to indulge me in your favorite memory in Fort Collins with those that you love.

Chances are it's maybe a walk along the Poudre Trail, hearing the sound of the river,

taking in an incredible rendition of a speech by Frederick Douglass on the steps of the city hall.

Resting under a tree, a ginormous tree in City Park.

Visiting the butterflies at the gardens.

Dunking on your friends at the Azalon Center.

This one for me is an aspirational one but scoring

some points against your favorite pickleball player.

All of these spaces and places whether it's scrabble at Collendale or taking in the history of Grandview. These don't happen by accident. And as the chair of the Parks and Rec Advisory Board, I get to advocate for some of these spaces, but more importantly, the folks and just a few of the folks that are standing behind me today, and many, many more behind the scenes, who make those favorite memories of ours possible. parks and recreation spaces are some of the last places that we can just exist without needing to

pay money to be there or needing to be something other than what we are and that doesn't happen by

accident it happens because our voters or citizens like you said yes to something like the 2050 tax or ccip or any of the other things that help empower these wonderful and creative and talented people like our parks planning department to make these monuments in every single one of our neighborhoods, these beautiful testaments to trees and open spaces, mental health, or whether it's just helping the technicians to have the right tools and the right equipment to solve and make our parks safe and fun and easy to play in. Those happen because you care about our parks and recreation spaces, and they care and you care about the people that are behind me and the people that are also working behind the scenes to make those moments possible. So the next time that you have a favorite memory in Fort Collins, first of all thank yourself for supporting Parks and Rec and then maybe say a moment of thanks for these folks behind me who make those moments possible. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Yes.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you. Okay, the next proclamation we have is declaring the day of June 19th as Juneteenth Independence Day.

If you would like to support this proclamation, please come on up.

Thank you.

All right, all right. And who's accepting the proclamation? You are.

Okay, great.

All right. We good? You're the only one pointing to yourself.

Okay, great.

All right. Whereas on June 19th, 1865, enslaved people in Galveston, Texas, heard the words that changed everything, that they were free, a moment long overdue, and ignited a flame of liberation that still burns today. and whereas the story of Juneteenth is inseparable from the story of black and African American people who endured unimaginable suffering yet preserved their culture dignity and humanity laying the moral foundation upon which a more just America is still being built and whereas for generations black communities celebrated Juneteenth long before it was a national holiday gathering parks churches and family yards keeping memory alive through joy food music and prayer a testament to a people who refuse to let their freedom be forgotten. And whereas the contributions of Black and African Americans are woven into every thread of this nation, including our music, medicine, literature, labor, and laws, and their ongoing fight for full and equal belonging is not separate from the American story, but central to it. And whereas Governor Jared Polis formally acknowledged the historical significance of this day by signing legislation on May 2, 2022, establishing Juneteenth as Colorado's 11th state holiday, affirming our state's commitment to honoring this pivotal moment in American history. And whereas the city of Fort Collins remains steadfastly committed to advancing inclusion, diversity, equity, and accessibility in all aspects of community life, recognizing that the promise of freedom requires ongoing dedication to creating a city where all people can thrive. And whereas this year's theme of belonging calls us to affirm that these voices and the leadership of Black and African Americans must be heard and centered in every aspect of American life, including our civic institutions, workplaces, schools, and neighborhoods, because a nation cannot belong to all if it silences any. And whereas our Fork Homes community will gather at foothills mall mall on june 19th to june 20th 2026 to honor the significant day through celebration and joy remembrance and community connection now therefore i am lee francis mayor of the city of fort collins do hereby proclaim june 19th 2026 at juneteenth independence day invite all residents together in celebration and solidarity honoring and enduring spirit of freedom and our commitment to a community where everyone belongs

I would like to thank the city and our Juneteenth committee in putting this activity together to celebrate. It is not lost on me as I walk up to this stage that in 2021, our very last official recognized federal holiday was Juneteenth. A day which also recognizes when we recognize the last of slavery in Galveston, Texas. being formally told that they were free. It's not lost on me that in 1983, the second to last federal holiday was MLK Day, in which a man had a dream for nonviolence and for peace and for that all who belong to the American society would have the same freedoms and dignities as their counterparts here in his nation. It's not lost on me that right before this proclamation today, we had a rendition of Frederick Douglass, What is the Slave to the Fourth of July, in which he talked to a nation that was 76 years young in this infancy in the global landscape. And as we become 250 years on July 4th, we are now in our adolescence, in which we are emotional, We are divisive. We are accusatory. We are separated. We are amongst discord. We are finding those in the shadows and we do not sense the belonging that they have. We are not listening to the voices of those who are oppressed. We are not listening to those who are still looking for the freedoms that we are all gleaned and hoping to have in this nation. Juneteenth is a celebration not only of the freedoms of the African American people,

but it is also a celebration of the commitment of our culture that says we do not rest until all are blessed. We do not celebrate until all are free. We do not celebrate and we do not come together until everybody can come together freely for

who they are, what they represent, and how they move in this community. So I hope that as you come through on June 19th, this Saturday and this Friday, in celebration, you recognize that as a nation, we are still an adolescent nation. We are in our teenage years as a nation on this global stage. Let Juneteenth be a reminder that this should not be the last holiday that represents freedom, but it should be the first call to action amongst communities of color that are still saying there is still work to do in this nation. I hope you come to celebrate not only to uplift what Juneteenth is about, but the aspirational values of what this country can be if we all see the humanity amongst each other and we all sit to the notion of what truly belonging is about. With that, I accept this proclamation. Thank you.

Thank you.

Anyone else like to say anything?

All right.

He did say it all. I don't know how he could follow that. So thank you very much. Thanks, everyone.

Okay, just a short note that proclamations are occasionally read in the community, and everyone is encouraged to attend.

The proclamation declaring June 20th, 2026 as World Refugee Day,

requested by the Church World Service for Cons,

will be read on June 26th at 5 p.m. at the Magnolia Theater at the Lincoln Center.

That's all the proclamations for this evening. Stay tuned for regular City Council meeting beginning at 6 p.m. Thanks everyone

Good evening Fort Collins the time is now 6 p.m. And I call the regular meeting of the Fort Collins City Council to order please join me for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America And to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Will the clerk please call the roll?

Francis? Here. Pinatero? Here. Nelson? Here. Hoven? Here. Patiandi? Here. Fudge? Here. Conway? Here.

Great. We are all here. We appreciate everyone who has joined us tonight, either in person or virtually. And I want to remind everyone that we are here for the same purpose, which is the future of our community. Will the city manager please provide a review of today's agenda? Yes, thank you mayor good evening everyone

There are no changes to the published agenda I do want to make a couple comments though the consent calendar includes 25 items I am going to pull item number 24 related to making appointments to the downtown development Authority Board To allow councilmember Nelson to recuse herself for that vote We have two planned discussion items the first two items are on discussion to enable Mayor Francis to recuse herself due to a conflict. Those are the transfer of grant funds for the DOLA grant award to develop a new Fort Collins housing action plan and then making a supplemental appropriation from DOLA, authorizing a transfer of appropriated funds and approving an IGA for the transit-oriented community's infrastructure program. We'll then have two additional discussion items, one regarding the Front Range Passenger Rail District's narrative summary for the development of a passenger rail service And then finally flock retention and data sharing and I will also note that at the conclusion of our regular meeting this Evening we'll go into a work session to talk about the council priority Regarding connecting with the community. So that's all from me mayor great full agenda tonight

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both online. Go ahead, Jeff. Hello, I'm Jeff Ackerman from District 2. The Declaration of Independence states all people are endowed with unalienable rights, endowed by our Creator, not by any person or document. So which is more important, the fundamental human rights or the mere words written down to recognize them? In Christianity, we discuss the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law. Let's apply that same concept to our rights in the Constitution. The Third Amendment states during times of peace, we shall not be forced to house soldiers. What about people not associated with the military, like ICE agents? They aren't soldiers, so regardless of peace or war, we can be forced to house ICE agents when they come to Fort Collins, Right. Using flock, arguably, follows the letter of the law of the Fourth Amendment, since the government doesn't own those cameras and the mass surveillance AI system behind them. The government merely has a service agreement to access it. That is a perversion of the Fourth Amendment's attempt to protect the right of the people, to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures.

We elected you to represent us and be our moral leaders. Do you feel in your heart that flock surveillance is in keeping with the spirit of the Fourth Amendment? Finally, just because something is legal does not make it moral. Slavery was legal for most of human history.

I urge you to end the agreement with Flock and outlaw mass surveillance in Fort Collins. Flock is Pandora's box.

Our nation is falling fast into fascism. Slam that box shut before it's too late.

Thank you. Thank you. Michaela? Online? Don't see Michaela. All right, Spencer?

All right, can I get my slides please?

Okay. I'm Spencer Burris, District 5 with Northern Colorado Privacy Coalition. So you may remember a few public comments ago, we brought up that FLOC has

a webinar where they coach city staff to basically sell FLOC to city council. and while looking for more details on this webinar, we actually found a Flock vulnerability

ourselves. So what you can see here is the 404 Media article where they talk about it,

but essentially Flock has been revealing law enforcement searches via search results that are indexed on the internet. And sort of in the URLs that they index, you can see a lot of information including license plate numbers, reasons for the search, the state, the time it

conducted, sometimes case numbers, sometimes the networks that they are sourced within, and sometimes vehicle decorations such as bumper plates or license, top racks, and bumper stickers.

So as a software engineer, I honestly am not really sure how I manage this.

I'm not sure I could do this if I wanted to because that's not a thing that usually gets indexed,

And I think it's very suspicious that it did get indexed.

And I think this is a clear illustration of how the way Flock operates is not only a risk to the privacy and rights of individual citizens, but also their customers, the police. Could I go to the next slide, please?

So here you can see the censored search URLs, which we've redacted.

but you can see the various fields I just mentioned there. And then could I go to the next slide, please?

Yeah, so this is actually a risk, not just to citizens, but law enforcement, law enforcement investigations,

and just sort of anyone,

given how the searches can often be conducted on anyone out in the world.

Thank you. Thank you.

Tyler, and then Amanda.

Good evening. Tyler Davidson, District 5. It was recently brought to my attention that I've been coming here for six months, not three or four, like I'd earlier thought, to do this.

and someone, I don't remember who on the council, said, well, gosh, government works slowly.

Well, strangely enough, the FLOC contract went from proposal to contract with a payment check

in hand in a matter of weeks. So when the government wants to move quickly, they move just fine. So I feel like I've been patronized a little bit by being told that somehow government moves slowly. Also, the city of Oshkosh, Wisconsin, upon finding out that Flock was lying to them,

terminated the contract in 24 hours. That's been a little more than 24 hours, folks. So it's time

to make the decision. I've often made a history lesson. I'm going to do it again tonight. We've all heard the saying, those who have nothing to hide should have nothing to fear. Quick quiz, who is the guy who said that? Nazi Joseph Goebbels said that.

Exactly. We are now firmly in fascist territory like the other gentleman said. We have the right to privacy. And what that means is that we have the right to limit and control the data that we generate about ourselves. And that is really why folks are so upset. In six months, I've never heard someone walk up to this podium and give their full-throated approval of flat cameras because they know exactly what's at stake. And so I implore you, once again, protect our rights, protect our right to privacy, live up to the oath. Thank you.

Thank you. Amanda? Not seeing Amanda.

Oh, sorry, you're back there. Go ahead. And then we'll go to Howard.

Good evening, Mayor Francis and fellow city council members. My name is Mandy Morgan. I am a resident of District 2 and a community disability advocate. I am here tonight on behalf of Fort Collins Community of Individuals with Disabilities. As a constituent of the Transport Dialeride Service since 2002, as an independent adult, as well as since 1989 as a child, I am here this evening to ask that the reductions of the service be strongly reconsidered. The community of folks with disabilities already receives the minimum of services from many services in this city, and we cannot afford to lose even more from Dyloride when already as limited as it is. It is very much an essential service. In choosing to move forward with these reductions, it is a form of segregation for folks with disabilities because it would be limiting when and where they would be able to access services to leave their homes independently and contribute to society socially, professionally, and just as equally as their non-disabled counterparts. It would be similar to the 70s when individuals with disabilities could not leave their houses alone. So the assumption is that we would have to be required to have other people with us. I strongly ask that you reconsider this plan. You have all received a letter as of Monday evening or afternoon that goes further into these details on this matter. And I look forward to answering any further questions and provide any further feedback as needed. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Howard? And then we'll go to Eric.

My name is Howard Wasserman, and I own Curiosities, a gift shop located in Old Town. I've been in business for over 30 years, and I'm here again to oppose paid on-street parking. Business owners and the citizens of Fort Collins do not want paid on-street parking, And as of today, we have nearly 11,000 signatures on our grassroots petition created by local business owners opposing paid parking in Old Town. That is a significant number and it continues to grow. Here are a couple of citizen comment highlights on the city's website. Quote, paid parking is a poor plan for generating income. I foresee further loss to downtown businesses, which make up the lively character of Old Town. Don't make Amazon and big box stores more enticing for people. Keep the foot traffic in downtown and keep the two-hour free parking. And another comment, accessibility and convenience are major reasons people choose to visit Old Town. Paid parking could discourage visitors by negative and negatively impact the businesses that rely on consistent customer volume. And here is the most consistent and concerning statement posted on the city website. and what I hear from most of my customers, that I will not frequent Old Town if I have to pay to park. And a real-life example of this paid parking short-sightedness is my hometown of San Diego, California. The city and the city council installed paid parking meters throughout Balboa Park at the beginning of this year. Institutions near Balboa Park saw a general 34% drop in visitors, with some institutions reporting 60% decline in visitors. Restaurants and businesses around the area also reported revenue drops of 10 to 15 percent. Last week, San Diego City Council decided to repeal paid parking due to widespread outrage amongst the residents and business owners. They will now have to remove all the paid parking meters, costing an additional $1.5 million lost to the city. Let's not make this mistake.

Thank you. Eric, and then we'll go to William.

Thanks. The following comments pertain to the legal property taxation. that the Poudreau School District has engaged in for decades, and the nexus of that illegal taxation with the finances of the Fort Collins Urban Renewal Authority and Downtown Development Authority. To begin with, imagine that you go to a retail store. You select an item that has a price that is clearly marked $49. When you take it up to the checkout, the price comes up as $52. But at this retail store, you can't put the merchandise back on the shelf. You can't go shop at another store. you're stuck paying $52 for something you thought was going to cost $49. This is basically what happened in 2024 when PSD asked voters to approve a tax increase for up to $49 million. The voters said yes in November. And then, guess what? Five weeks later, the PSD board set the mill levy for that new tax at a rate to bring in $52 million. They did it on the consent calendar. No questions asked, no explanation given. This is also basically what happened in each of six previous tax increase elections where the voters approved a request by PSD for a tax increase for a fixed amount, X dollars, but then immediately started taxing to bring X plus one. x dollars but then immediately started taxing to bring x plus y dollars once again the ballot question ! the tabor notice says x but the mill levy that all the property owners in Fort Collins and the rest of the ! the district pay are paying is x plus y dollars ! Now the nexus here is the fact that that y term is the revenue lost to tiff ! That would be the Fort Collins Urban Renewal authority DDA in the 10th ! development authority their urban renewal authority it's probably the most disgusting authority. It's probably the most disgusting example of public life corruption I've ever seen anywhere in these United States. And just to make it very short, every dollar attributable to those voter-approved levies that is diverted to the URA and DDA will have to be refunded to the taxpayers.

And then after William, we'll go to Mary. Good evening, Council members and Mayor Francis. My name is William Salter. I'm a recent graduate of Ridgeview Classical Schools, and tonight I'm here to ask the city to cancel the police contract with Flock Safety and remove these cameras from Fort Collins. I want to start with the fact that I find rather difficult to accept. When the Fort Collins Police Services signed their contract with Flock Safety in 2024, this council, the body elected to represent the people of this city, was neither asked to approve it nor, as I understand it, even notified. Roughly 15 cameras went up at intersections across Fort Collins, and the citizens' owns representatives had no say in it. If I am wrong about this, I certainly welcome the correction, but if I am right, that fact alone should concern all citizens. I want to be fair about what these cameras have accomplished. Since installation, the Flock system has reportedly aided in apprehending an Amber Alert suspect traveling from Utah, recovering a stolen vehicle, and retroactively identifying a hit-and-run perpetrator. I do not want to admonish the Port Collins Police Services. I also credit them for negotiating contract language that prevents Flock from accessing our footage without explicit Fort Collins Police Services authorization, but these are simply not sufficient justifications for mass warrantless surveillance of every vehicle in this city. Flock Safety has a documented record of violating exactly these kind of commitments. In Dunwoody, Georgia, Flockwood employees access footage from cameras in children's facilities, including a children's gymnastics room, to run sales demonstrations. In Evanston, Illinois, an audit by the Illinois Secretary of State found that Flock had alLod federal customs and border protection to access the state's cameras in violation of state law. Evanston terminated the contract and within days Flock reinstalled these cameras around the city, forcing the city to issue a cease and desist order. In Cambridge, Massachusetts, after the city had deactivated its own contract, Flock technicians installed two new cameras without the city's knowledge. Cambridge called it a material breach of trust and canceled the contract. This is Flock's company behavior. Fort Collins contract's protections are only as strong as Flock's willingness to honor

them. Thank you. Thank you. Mary and then Barbara. Good evening. My name is Mary. I'm here to shed light on an egregious misuse of Fort Collins tax dollars and public trust by our police department. I want to make sure the chief of police hears me. I was cited for criminal mischief based on a fabricated police report written by officer Paul Harding who invented a statement of intent to secure a charge against me. I'm a microbiologist, and the absolute foundation of my work is data integrity. After my multiple attempts to have this case dismissed were denied, I opened an internal affairs investigation in April. Only after learning of the investigation did Officer Harding file a supplemental report claiming he located an error and accidentally attributed a quote to the wrong person. This is patently false. His own body-worn camera footage refutes his entire claim, proving the statement was never substantively said by anyone. Officer Harding did not fix a typo. He doubled down on a lie to cover his original fabrication. I have provided his supervisor, Andy Leslie, with direct body cam clips explicitly detailing these contradictions. Yet I am continually told the investigation is ongoing. This is administrative stonewalling, and dragging this process out has taken a massive toll on my health. I am asking this council and the chief of police to immediately look into why a cut and dried internal affairs investigation with definitive body camera evidence is being stalled. Our tax dollars should fund public safety, not the protection of data fabrication. Furthermore, how many people are sitting in jail or paying fines because of Officer Harding lying on an official police report? Thank you.

Thank you. Barbara? And then we'll go to Wallet. Okay. Hi. I just want to thank you guys for letting me come up here and talk. And I just wanted to bring something attention to the council that has kind of bothered me,

I don't know if there's ever been an audit done on who made the decision to remove the gates from the parking garages. When that decision was made, and was there any discussion as to how an effective enforcement was going to occur and replace what was currently used when they removed the gates? You know, it's our money.

It means something to me. It's mine.

And, you know, when we have losses, and I don't even want to say how bad they are in public,

but they are horrific and shocking. And I think something needs to be looked into. And it would be nice to know who's going to take responsibility for making the decision that was made because it was bad. Secondly, parking is a very broad and large issue. And it deserves a standalone treatment and a standalone department that's not combined with other departments.

it needs to work with other departments, but it needs a leadership that is independent to fix and deal with major issues that are going on.

They can't be dealt with when you're combining things. This is a big issue, parking, and it needs personal attention.

And so I just thought I'd tell you that the DDA has also like seven years ago said they had $1.5 million that they were putting aside when the other parking garage was built.

and that was never alLod to be brought up when the parking board was in session and as far as I know it's still never been addressed so thank you for your time thank you and then zip greetings

council and mayor my name is Waleed Rahman district one last month two boulder residents filed a class action lawsuit against their police chief alleging that their 31 flock safety cameras amount to and I'm quoting directly from the complaint, mass suspicionless warrantless surveillance in violation of the Colorado Constitution. Their attorney chose Colorado's own constitution as the battleground as our state's privacy protections go further than what the federal courts are required to enforce. Boulder may become the test case that changes the legal landscape for every city in this state and being sued costs a lot of money and time and resources. Speaking of which, we were told that this system cost Fort Collins $96,000. I want us to consider what that number actually represents. That figure does not include the last six months of public comment and working session on this topic alone. It does not include the mayor's time. It does not include the city manager's time, the city council's time, the police chief's time, the chief information officer's time, the city attorney's time, or the countless hours that their staff have had to spend preparing reports and legal reviews and presentations to keep pace with a program that has moved faster than the oversight meant to govern it. It does not include the dozens of hours your own constituents have spent writing speeches, organizing, petitioning on their own time at their own expense, simply to be heard on a contract that was never put to a vote. It doesn't include the cost of tonight or the next meeting or the one after that, And it certainly doesn't include the legal exposure that the city now carries as a potential defendant watching a nearly identical program get challenged in the Boulder District Court right now. When you add up all of these hours, I wonder how much this $96,000 contract has truly cost the people of Fort Collins. Boulder's council is now watching from the sidelines as a court decides this council still has the opportunity to lead. Suspend the ALPRs, build a surveillance ordinance that reflects the values of this community. You were elected to lead and tonight is another opportunity to do that. Thank you.

Zip and then we'll go to Ben online.

Thank you, Ali. Echo everything he said. I'm Zip, a local musician and activist here to urge council members to work to mitigate the safety, privacy, and legal risks of flock cameras and any other ALPR or AI surveillance system. We need to terminate our contract with flock safety and in the meantime, ensure data access and sharing is severely restricted. Did you know at least 25 US cities and counting have already terminated the flock contracts? One of those very cities was Mountain View and Silicon Valley, the home of many software and AI companies themselves, after an audit discovered federal agencies accessing local camera data without the city's knowledge. There's many cases such as this. Surveilling everyone's driving patterns does not make us safer. It makes us less safe by infringing on our right to move freely while fueling the numbers-based policing system that preys upon marginalized people. These cameras make lots of mistakes, could lean to frightening police encounters and wrongful arrests. not to mention a recent report from 404 Media shows evidence of Flock building in functionality from a product called Signal Trace, which will track Bluetooth signals, laptops, smartwatches, phones, etc., and connect it to your identity. To paraphrase Chad Marlow, the chief policy counsel at ACLU, the idea of keeping a location dossier on every single person just in case one of us turns out to be a criminal is about the worst approach to privacy I can imagine. Let's terminate the FLOC contract as soon as possible. And at the very least, we need to opt out of National Lookup Tool, if we haven't already. Sounds like maybe we have. That's great progress. And enforce strong regulations to prevent out-of-state data sharing that could very likely support the unlawful, violent actions that ICE and other corrupt federal agencies carry out. The people of Fort Collins do not want to build an AI surveillance state. Please consider the risks behind this dangerous technology from FLOC to Axios to whatever startup comes tomorrow. The public has no way to opt out of the surveillance technology unless you all who are representing us Thank you for your time and work restrict alpr is from collecting and sharing our personal data in the first place Thanks so much. Thank you, but a Ben online and then Michael Hello I Can't write camera whatever my name is Ben DiNardo and I'm from district 5 and I want to thank the council for the chance to speak today I wish to speak on two issues on the agenda for today's meeting, the Front Range Rail District station in Fort Collins and the city's retention and sharing of flock data. To start with the rail station, I am personally very excited that Fort Collins will once again be connected to Denver via passenger rail. And while we may all wish we could have a bigger, faster, and more reliable option, the Front Range Passenger Rail District is likely to work because it's not trying to do anything fancy. By starting with something small and achievable, it leaves room to grow into more reliable service we are all hoping for. And for that reason, I'm here today to encourage the council to keep the proposed station near Drake and College rather than attempting a more ambitious plan to secure an Old Town station. We want to start out as simple as possible because simple is achievable. While in a perfect world, I agree it would make more sense to have the station in Old Town, we don't live in a perfect world. we must work within the constraints, history, and contemporary politics have left us, and that world demands compromise, and the best way to ensure that we get rail as soon as possible is to take the simple and reliable option of the Drake Station.

As for the second issue, which just began today, the city's retention and sharing of flock data,

we in the year 2026 seem to have lost context as to how wild our modern world of mass surveillance is. This loss of context makes sense. Numberless times, we encounter systems that record some aspect of our interaction

in order to report this data for analytical purposes. Profiles are created on all of us to better sell us advertisements. This is just life in 2026. But all of this is remarkably new, and we need to remember that, or else what seems normal to us will become normalized for future generations. We need privacy as citizens, and we are owed it by the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

And regardless of the position courts have come to with regards to this right,

the spirit of... Thank you. Michael, and then we'll go to Leary.

Hi, my name is Mike Thomas. I live in Fort Collins, District 6. Good evening, Mayor and Councilmembers. Thank you for your time. I've traveled extensively by train in Europe and Japan while youth hosteling, and I've seen many successful rail systems. I'm excited about passenger rail here, beyond excited, because I would gladly take the train to Denver, DIA, instead of spending more time on I-25. But we're not there yet. Most people in Fort Collins will get to the train station by car. That's why I support the Drake location if it includes substantial overnight parking. If the station is placed in Old Town, we'll need a major park and ride solution with significant overnight parking, possibly somewhere else. I do think entertainment travel will be part of the market. Groups of friends will absolutely take the train to Denver for a night out, but they'll want to leave their cars in Fort Collins somewhere first. My main point is simple. Trains need riders, riders need access, and in Fort Collins, access means parking. Thank you. I appreciate your time, and please get rid of flat cameras.

Thank you. Leary? Hi, everyone. My name is Leary. I live in District 5. I'm a Dollar Ride user, a member of the Dollar Ride Transit Accessibility Committee, and a member of the Disability Advisory Board. At CSU, I also represent the Accessibility Center as a senator in our student government.

I'm not speaking on behalf of any of those groups. I'm not speaking on behalf of the Disability Advisory Board, but I am speaking as a disabled citizen and as a person who cannot drive due to my disability.

Mandy, who spoke earlier, and I sent you a letter.

I hope that you had the time to read it. We ask that future feedback collection be amended to include Dallaride and its users.

Disabled citizens are just as much stakeholders as non-disabled people are.

Please consider how these service reductions will impact our citizens.

Due to federal limitations surrounding SSI, disabled people who rely on those services are very likely to not be able to afford any vehicle, especially not an adaptive or accessible vehicle. Assuming that people would be able to find replacements for dialeride is unrealistic.

on Sundays for both bus riders and dollar ride users. In relation to discussion on public transportation, I want to bring up the front range passenger rail. We are additionally concerned that the train will not be accessible to mobility aid users and disabled people in general. Often mobility aid users that use trains must rely on an attendant to bring a portable ramp so they can get on the train and generally they must call ahead so that there's an attendant at their destination but often this gets missed or forgotten. This is not the only accessibility aspect of many regarding the train and stations. I've seen no effort from FRPR to come to the Disability Advisory Board or the Dial-A-Rite-Chain Accessibility Committee so far. And at this point, I ask that you halt any future decisions, including the one tonight, until it can be guaranteed that the train will be fully accessible and independently usable for mobility aid users. Thank you. Thank you. Rich, and then

Center for Collins, 80525. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Councilors. The various items that I have to discuss tonight is basically, I think, just basic maintenance sometimes gets shorted for the larger ideas. And one of the things that I have seen is that art in public places, I know of one place in particular where there's broken glass and it has a sharp edge right in the walking path and it really has not been dealt with as long as I can remember. I haven't reported it but I thought some way the city needs to be involved in that looking after things like that. On number 17 I found that kind of obtuse. There's a water requirement with landscaping. I tried to read through that. It just went around and around and around and it never really got to the point. And I think overall what we get to is if we make things too complex to figure out, are we ever going to get the desired result? Sometimes simplification helps. Number 19, private activity bonds, housing catalyst. So when I looked at Housing Catalyst report for fiscal year 25, I notice admin costs are very much eaten up a huge chunk of the monies that are available. Now, the question is, if you add more money to it, does it solve that problem or does it add more admin? Number 23, I notice as a matter of interest is all of the people are of the same gender. Thank you.

Thank you. Israia and then Ian.

Good evening, Council. My name is Israia Steyer from District 3. And first, I want to thank the city for starting the process of setting up a framework for governing surveillance technology in the city. I think a robust set of guidelines and a clear oversight process will be crucial moving forward ensuring that the city retains the trust of the community and ensures that proper guardrails are in place to protect both our community members and the city. But it is important to note that we do not have that framework in place right now. Earlier, we saw Spencer highlight a data breach from FLOC, a data breach that a council member specifically asked about to our police leadership, and were told that it was not possible. If we were able to find this, can you really trust any of the assurances that you have been given about how secure this system is? how many more of these vulnerabilities are out there waiting to be discovered? You also heard earlier about residents of Boulder who chose to sue their city government. I think I need to make it clear how lucky you are that your residents did not jump immediately try to sue their city government. We trust you. We know that you have our best interests at heart And our first inclination was to work with you. But the longer you have this year, the longer these violations, these vulnerabilities go on, sooner or later somebody is going to do that. All of these are liabilities for the city. And they're even more so when we do not have a framework in place to deal with them. That's why I'm urging you tonight to pause the contract, pause our use of ALPRs. Thank you. Thank you. Ian?

Hello. So I'm here to oppose flock cameras, and I hope you all as well. A couple weeks ago, my wife spoke about her experience being stalked from a police officer in a different state many years ago, and mentioned that if flock cameras existed today, she may not be alive now. These have right potential for abuse. They already have been. There have been many states where officers have stalked people using these cameras, and I think that should be a very serious consideration for how sensitive location data is, especially when it maps out and you can be pinged in real time where someone is. That is not for anyone's safety. That violates privacy, and privacy is what makes people safe. If you need a historical context about data being used against people, back in 1942, when Japanese Americans were interned in internment camps, the process of all that was done originally by paperwork, just on hand, and the U.S. used census data. But that's illegal. You can't use census data. It was illegal, and the government knew that. So instead, they went to IBM, a private company like we're going with Flock, to turn all that data into punch cards so they could then cross-reference and tabulate all that information about two-thirds of those Japanese Americans are American citizens. So all their rights got violated just so they could be put into camps. And this is something this current administration has shown to be doing with this Flock information. So I hope you all choose to not give an ounce of information that could be used against us and choose our safety and privacy over any of the flock information. Thank you. Thank you.

Augustine, do you want to talk now or on the discussion item? This is fine. Okay, go ahead.

My name is Augustine Wright, District 2. I am pleased to be with you. Thank you. I work a lot with different groups and work on consensus building. And as I'm listening to the public comment, it seems like there's a consensus out there. And so I won't labor on only to be another voice in there saying, we don't want the flat cameras, whatever that needs to be interpreted there. It would have been surprising if I came up here and spoke in favor of them. And we just need to recognize that there's there's some consensus that's built out here. and the town of Fort Collins would like these gone. So thank you.

Thank you. Roxanne and then Grace.

My name is Roxanne Artem, 80525. Every decision we make has consequences.

There are consequences for action and consequences for inaction. But too often we let fear decide for us. fear of pushback, fear of being wrong, fear of making a mistake.

I believe that fear is part of what keeps the block cameras in place and the public is left to live with the consequences.

How would you feel about being stalked by an officer with access to your every move? Maybe being attacked by a dog from the canine unit when you've done nothing wrong. or being folLod for exercising your First Amendment right to criticize the police? How about being wrongfully jailed for a month or pulled over at gunpoint with your grandchildren in the backseat for a crime you didn't commit?

These are not hypothetical. These happen to real people. That is the cost of mass surveillance. Innocent people are treated like criminals. There's an old warning that evil succeeds when good people do nothing.

Tonight, you can choose to do nothing, or you can show the courage this moment requires

and vote to remove the flock cameras from our city. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Grace? And then Jamie.

me. I strongly oppose this flock safety contract on the grounds of fiscal and civil irresponsibility and the outsourcing of public infrastructure to private entities. Please choose option four. We should eliminate the use of ALPRs entirely. Automated surveillance doesn't prevent crime. It just monetizes it. Flat rate fines mean legal for a fee. And for some, this grid is just a minor convenience fee for driving how they want. And for the rest of us, it's a debt trap placed by our representatives and funded by our tax dollars. Additionally, by sharing our local data across a multi-agency network like FLOC, the council is acting as a data broker. When this system is breached, Fort Collins taxpayers, which it already has been, Fort Collins taxpayers will hold the liability. It's our faces and our daily lives that are exposed to this system of cameras. It's the council's responsibility to protect us from such a liability, given that we have no choice but to use these roads every single day. These fines leave our pockets and never show back up in the city that we live in, and we are routing massive amounts of public capital to a private corporation on a recurring subscription. That is capital drained away from permanent housing, mental health infrastructure, and actual municipal problem solving. Over five years, we're going to spend half a million dollars to rent these cameras from flock and give them all of our data and the only thing that we're going to get back is a receipt and a compromised sense of public safety this contract is not in our best interest thank you so

much thank you jamie and then annette good evening council mayor um my name is jamie baird i am a district one resident um and i would like to make comment today regarding agenda item 29 of course the FLOC retention and data sharing. I read the memorandum from Greg Yeager regarding FLOC and ALPR usage, which was written in May of this year, and I find the proposals one through three totally unacceptable. I believe the only responsible way to handle our relationship with FLOC is to terminate it entirely. Contracting with FLOC or any ALPR provider is an absolutely, candidly, I feel very wretched approach to public safety. Adoption of this powerful mass surveillance is a massive privacy violation, and it opens everyone in Fort Collins up to tracking without their consent or a warrant. I believe firmly that this erodes public safety and erodes trust in our public agencies like our police and local government. We cannot view these ALPR systems as a neutral tool. These systems are being wielded by people in positions of great power and legal protection against everyday people whose presence in these surveillance data collections automatically classifies them as suspect. FLOT claims to track only public information, but is my trip to my doctor's office public? Is a routine commute to a specific place of worship public knowledge? And all this is stored and can be tracked by law enforcement agencies and any other agencies that they are collaborating with. Looking at that memorandum, some options we seem to be considering are shortening data retention timelines, but that still opens us up to the vulnerabilities of that data being breached, adding more audits. But I don't want audits. I want communal collaborative public safety, and I don't think we can get that

with flocking. Thank you. Annette and then Jack. I'm Annette Zacharias, the Executive Director at

Family Housing Network here in Fort Collins. And I just want to say, I know that we're hearing a lot about flocking tonight, and that's a very contentious issue. But another issue that our community faces is homelessness. And I just want to stop and pause and say thank you so much to the City of Fort Collins for investing in solving homelessness. It doesn't, some days doesn't feel like we're doing enough, but I can tell you that the CDBG Commission, along with the Affordable Housing Board has spent countless hours and so many volunteers to come up with a funding recommendation for you tonight. And we are thrilled to be able to say that we are one of the agencies that have been considered for funding. And it will allow us to double the capacity of our overnight shelter for families experiencing homelessness in Fort Collins. So we'll be able to go from four families at a time to eight. And that doesn't sound like a large number, but it's tremendous this when we're talking about 100 families a year that we serve in our shelter confines. So I just want to say thank you to everyone for all of your hard work on this. Thank you for consideration of this funding, and we are blessed to be able to continue to serve. Thank you. Jack, and then Liam.

The city of Fort Collins demonstrates that it prioritizes the interests of private corporations over the greater good when it spends mass amounts of taxpayer dollars for privatized mass surveillance without the consent of the people funding it. Not only does the installation of flock cameras give the uncomfortable feeling of being watched, it takes away money from public services that need funding. Like the person just said before me, we could be doing so much more to solve homelessness, but instead we're buying flock cameras. Our arrangement with flock safety is a failure of resource management as it is leasing our public infrastructure to private, out-of-state private entity and eternally draining the city of taxpayer money for a system ran by a private entity that has no priority in keeping us safe. People have accessed flock camera systems when they should not have. Flock cameras have been used to stalk people and flock cameras have even led police to wrong suspects here in Colorado. This contract only brings safety risks to the people living here all while taking taxpayer money out of the hands of the taxpayer and in the hands of the billionaire. For these reasons, I oppose the flock safety contract. Please choose option four to eliminate the use of ALPR entirely.

Thank you. Thanks. And Jack, can you just say your name and general address for the record? Jack Ryan, District 6. Thank you. Liam and then Alex. Okay. Good evening, Council. My name is Liam Myers and I'm a built environment ecologist and District 1 constituent. I want to first start by highlighting the necessity of passenger rail along the front range and the the vast potential it has to drastically improve quality of life. With this being said, we have to be highly strategic in how we turn this potential into reality. While I don't see the Drake Station

as a long-term system anchor for Fort Collins, it remains a necessary step in the direction of increased frequency, Lor fares, and a downtown central station. There is a need for incrementalism with the Drake proposal, but there's also a need for a leap. Tonight, I'm asking you to pass

resolution 2026090 and commit to exploring a city-initiated acquisition of the historic Union Pacific Station and surrounding parcels. These properties include 200 Jefferson Street, 300, 318, and 320 North College Avenue. Additionally, the city should work with Union Pacific to acquire track rights northwest of the BNS-UP switch. I'd also ask that you form a technical

advisory committee to help guide the design and planning of a downtown station to ensure long-term ridership we need to begin development on a long-term station. I'd also would wanted to note to all that you can find more info on the benefits of paid parking at parkingfoco.com. Again, parkingfoco.com. Thank you and no way else. Thank you. Alex and then Jared.

Hello. It's great to be here again, although I have to admit I am really tired of talking about flock. At this point, I don't really know what to say. We're not funded as a group, the people who come in here. We're completely organically formed. It turns out there's not a lot of money in saying that we don't like VC-funded surveillance technology at City Council. And I just want to point out that everyone here who's had something to say, I think they've all been well-nuanced, well-researched points. This isn't just like, I hate the concept of the thing. We've covered security issues, we've covered financial issues, we've covered the other labor costs that sneak in outside of the contract values. Someone in our group found an actual vulnerability in the thing we're talking about, and it's published in the media. And I'm frustrated because when I hear about the things that were represented on the other side of the equation, right, the fact that like our data isn't being leaked to other places, that we only work with trusted agencies, that's patently not the case. We've seen that data is being leaked online. We've been told that it reduces crime. Denver took down their cameras for a month. It didn't do anything for their crime stats.

And so I just like, I wonder where the additional deliberation is going and like what else needs to be cleared up? Because the way I see it is in addition to something that invades our privacy and makes our community uncomfortable as a whole. We're also taking on this massive backstop, this financial backstop for any liability that this vendor generates for us. We don't even have to find a problem with like our police department. I like our police department, but we share it with all these other police departments and we can't vouch for what they do. And so as Wally had mentioned, like we've outrun the governance on this. This thing is out there. There's implications that we don't fully understand. And so just as government worked quickly to get this stuff into production. I would like them to work quickly to mitigate the risk and remove it. Thank you. Thank you. Jared, and then Kimberly.

My name is Jared Ross. I'm in District 6, and I'm a recent Master's of Public Administration and Urban Planning graduate. And I'm here to speak in favor of the Midtown location for the Front Range Passenger Rail stop.

One of the first civic conversations that I ever remember having as a kid was, I was born in 87

at Poudre Valley and was with my folks and we're talking about how exciting it could be if there were a railway running along I-25. So this is how long this thing has been going and it looks like we're actually gaining some traction. I'm just really excited about it. But

unfortunately since then we've added highway lanes which don't have, when you look at medium and long term are not effective. And one of my concerns is that there I want to make sure there's enough support for the train to be successful and that means that it's convenient for people and accessible and has connectivity so I want to see that the council does what it can to assure things like biking and bus and this might be the only time I ever speak in favor of parking but even maybe some parking at that location

And yeah, the Midtown is, it seems like a good option. Downtown is maybe preferable, but there's a financial and timeline concern there. So I also wanted to state my support against Flock. Thanks.

Thank you. Kimberly?

Kimberly Connor on the Human Services and Housing Funding Board, but not speaking for the board at this time. I've come today to say thank you for taking the mass surveillance issue seriously and I encourage you to go further and take flock and similar mass surveillance out of our city entirely until you have a plan officially in place to maintain the privacy of our citizens thank you thank you that is

everyone we have signed up for general public comment and we have a separate list for those who sign up for the discussion specific items we do have a few more all right so we all know and public comment does anyone on council have any follow-up to public comment yeah I thought it might be helpful

Kelly if we could talk about just the the next step for parking they I know maybe something in July maybe something in August yes so we are moving forward

with the route revisions that were discussed with council specific to some of the feedback that came up this evening. I do know there's a meeting scheduled this week with some of those community members to talk more specifically about some of the concerns that have been raised. But we are moving forward with the implementation of the new route system in August.

MS. I was also actually curious about that, too. But I was curious about parking. MS. Oh, sorry. We were talking about parking. I'm so sorry. MS. No, that's fine. I'm glad that you answered the question. MS. I'm so sorry. MS. That's how good Kelly DiMartino, our city manager,

or is she knows the question that parking and transit i'm sorry um totally confused the two so on parking we do currently have a work session scheduled on july 14th um to talk more about that i'm sorry everyone for the confusion um and um we are waiting for some additional information that's coming in right now um in terms of a capacity study there's also a survey that has been launched with the downtown business owners um to get more information specific on employee parking because that is something that we have heard considerable feedback from the community as being something we need to solve. So there is more information being compiled. We are working towards a July 14th work session. My one caveat toward that will be if we don't feel like we have had time to fully analyze the capacity study and make sure we have really good information, we might look at a slight shift in that schedule. But right now we're looking at mid-July.

Thank you. And then there was one mention of a parking board. We no longer have a parking board, correct?

No, that was a board that was sort of a subset board that was in place for a while that is no longer in existence.

Okay. Would it be a – I'm having whispers to me that say something about it being part of transportation now. The transportation board?

It is within their scope, yes. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, Mayor. And I will bounce back to the Dial-A-Ride issue. Thank you to Mandy and Larry for being here.

I am the liaison to the Disability Advisory Board, and I shared with the folks on that board when I visited them yesterday that it's so important that folks from our disability

community show up and speak to the real-world implications of the decisions that we make.

So I just appreciate you both being here to speak up and share your personal experiences

And as our city manager mentioned a follow-up meeting is upcoming and we've received your written materials

But I just wanted to thank you for coming and raising your concerns

Anyone else from the perfect?

Thank you. Um, first of all on the the dollar ride services I'll echo the thank you for coming and speaking up about that. I would be interested in learning the specific fiscal savings or impact of that particular change just to see if there's anything that could be done about that. When it comes to the FLOT cameras and the mass surveillance, I really appreciate the patience of those of you who have kept attending and keep meeting with us and educating us. And I think you'll see that it will have informed our discussion later in the meeting. So I just wanted to mention that. And then, Rich, full disclosure, you mentioned the glass with the art installation and I think you told me about that about a month ago and I will confess that I did not pass that on so I need to be held accountable for that and I will make sure we we do something about that so

thank you anyone else that's what mayor for time I just want to with the glass and the art installation I want to give a plug for access Fort Collins which is an app where you can go online and report graffiti report anything that you see that the city needs to take care of. And I use that anonymously just to make sure I'm not getting special treatment. And it's pretty amazing. Usually stuff's taken care of within 24 hours. So thank you.

Anyone else? Yeah, Councilmember Hobart.

Thank you. I just want to share also my gratitude to both Mandy and Erie for sharing your experiences with us. And we did, I did receive your email. I serve as the liaison for the transportation board. So I know that we will be continuing to have this conversation with them as well. Thank you And thanks to everyone for coming out the conversations just getting started

Anyone else? Okay We will move on to the consent calendar the city manager has moved item 24 from the consent calendar for discussion Does anyone on council wish to pull any other consent calendar items for individual discussion?

Okay, seeing none, is there a motion to approve the items on the consent calendar minus item 24?

Yeah, I move approval of consent calendar items 1 through 25 minus 24.

Second. It's a motion by Mayor Pro Temp and a second by Council Member Patyandi. Any further discussion? Seeing none, will the clerk call the roll? Fudge?

Yes.

Conway?

Yes.

Francis? Yes. Pinotero? Yes. Nelson? Yes. Hovind?

yes party Andy yes that passes 7-0 do council members have any comments on the consent calendar yeah council member mayor pro temp I just want to draw

attention to item number 12 which is an impact grant of almost 4 million it's a good news item that a grant we one that we can use for projects related to transportations building buildings land use and waste management and we'll be using it for transportation and safety improvements and looking taking another look at our building performance standards great thank you anyone

councilmember Conway yeah I'll just say regarding item 20 on the program I'm looking forward to having discussions in the future about how we weigh preservation versus new supply of affordable housing into the future but I'm coming I'm learning more and more about how the human services and housing funding board makes these decisions along with the affordable housing board but I think I think there's some procedural stuff to take a look at

there thank you anyone else yeah councilmember Nelson

gosh I hate to follow the good news item with like Debbie downer stuff but on the same on the same issue that our agenda item rather that councilmember Conway brought up, I think it's important to recognize that just to catch up to where we said we wanted to be in our affordable housing plan, this, gosh, the resolution has $4,348,350. Is that right? No. Yes. Maybe. be and I think that yeah that's 1% of the actual demonstrated need of development and construction cost in our community so understanding that we are in a budget shortfall and also that I am so grateful for the deliberation of both boards and as a council I think we need to recognize the the deficit in funding

for housing in our community thank you anyone else all right there are no staff reports tonight do council members have any reports see okay council member

pot yandy I was trying to give somebody else a chance I I'll be quick I just want to shout out a couple of cool events that occurred recently we had a groundbreaking last week for the village on Eastbrook speaking of affordable housing that's going to provide, I think, over 70 new affordable units to our community. And a big proportion of those will be using solar electricity that is on site, which is a really cool development. So a number of us got to attend that event. Council Member David. City Attorney General. So this past weekend celebrated the completion of the Poudre River Trail, which my understanding is that idea came up 50 years ago. And we've just now completed the last mile of the 45-mile trail between Bellevue and Greeley. So you can ride your bike all the way from Bellevue to Greeley, which is huge. It was a really cool celebration. And I also just wanted to mention I had the opportunity late last week to attend the Colorado Communities for Climate Action. annual meeting. It was really wonderful to get to communicate and connect with other communities statewide who are invested in climate action and a more sustainable future. And one of our staff members, lead environmental specialist, D'Angelo Bowden, was given an award for his leadership. So I wanted to celebrate that we have such an incredible staff member. And I also wanted to give a shout out. Just for those of you who don't know, when you send emails to your council members, we're oftentimes connecting you to staff who can more directly address your concerns. I recently had a resident with a kind of unusual and sticky situation, and that resident took the time to mention that Jay Hernandez from Code Compliance approached his issue in a really The competent, kind, understanding took tons of time. It took tons of time. I just am so appreciative of our staff, but shout out to Jay. He's awesome. And code compliance doesn't frequently get a lot of big ups. But Jay's amazing, so thank you.

Anyone else? Yeah, Councilmember Fudge.

Thank you. I'll just say last Wednesday, June 10th, we had the groundbreaking for the Southeast Community Center, which has also been in process for a while, not nearly as long as the trail. but I think for about 11 years now. So thank you to the voters for approving that and the funds to pay for that and the community's patience. It's going to be a great building, a great facility for the south part of the city. It is a partnership between the city, the school district, and the library district, which is great because it saves taxpayer dollars and brings a lot of services together. And then yesterday I participated in a tour of the Broadcom facility down by Harmony and Ziegler. I've driven by it about 10,000 times, and it looked huge from the outside. And to go inside, it looked even bigger. The incredible technology and the manufacturing they do there is awesome. And I was really impressed by their commitment to environmental sustainability as well. So they've made a lot of strides in that area. So that was really eye-opening, and I appreciate it. So thank you.

Great. Anyone else? Councilmember Holtman.

Thank you. I had the good fortune two weeks ago to attend the Fort Collins Police Services Police Academy graduation and the professionalism. And just it was super exciting to to meet the cadets. And I wish them the best of luck. FOCO Pride was just a blast. Saturday was just so much fun and I want to thank members of our community who participated but then also visited us during our listening sessions and it was a great great time to meet with residents I did get the chance to tour Avenues Recovery Center and it's our community's first inpatient residential treatment center where patients can stay up to 45 days and this recovery center focuses on a continuity of care. So it ranges from detox all the way through preparing to go home with aftercare focus. And so it was really, really interesting. And I'm excited to keep those conversations going. I want to thank Poudre Fire Authority for responding so quickly to the two fires last week that popped up. We know that it's just a tense time for all of us. So thank you. and I was able to attend the Community Connectors group on Friday, and it's an amazing group of many of our mobile home park advocates, so I was grateful to sit in on that conversation and really listen to some of their concerns. And the Gardens on Spring Creek and the Lagoon Series concerts kicked off over the past week, so there's lots of fun to be had in our community, so thank you.

Anyone else? I'll just say it's been a busy two weeks between Pride, EcoFest, two groundbreakings for affordable housing, a ribbon cutting, and the breaking ground of our Southeast Community Center. So with that, no. Council will be having the next three Tuesdays off of our regular meetings. But we will be completing our other work as usual. But we always take a little break during this time as we head into summer.

All right. Anything else? Okay. Next we will consider item number 24 which is pulled from the consent calendar for individual discussion to allow the council member to recuse all Do you like to recuse?

I would like to recuse my employer is one of the appointees great. Thank you

Is there a staff presentation for this item? There is not that we are here to answer any questions

Great there any members of the public that would like to speak on this item? Seeing none do council members have any questions or comments? Seeing none, is there a motion?

Yeah, I move to adopt resolution 2026-88, making appointments to the Downtown Development Authority Board.

Is there a second? Second.

We have a motion by Mayor Pro Tem and a second by Council Member Patiandi. Any further discussion? All right, will the clerk please call the roll?

Conway?

Yes.

Francis? Yes. Pinataro? Yes. Hoven? Yes. Patiandi? Yes. Fudge?

Yes.

All right, that passes six. And now Ann and I will switch places because I have declared a conflict of interest for items related to items 26 and 27 due to my role with the Department of Local Affairs. So the mayor pro tem will take over.

Okay. Thank you. So we will start with item number 26. Is there a staff presentation for this item?

We are not planning a presentation, but here to answer any questions.

Okay. And we do not have anyone signed up for public comment on this item.

do council members have any questions or comments okay do i have a motion i move to adopt on first reading ordinance number 068 2026 authorizing the transfer of appropriated grant funds for the colorado department of local affairs grant award to develop a new fort collins housing action plan second great we have the motion by council member

fudge and second by council member nelson uh is there any further discussion all right and will

the clerk please call the roll pinotero yes nelson yes hoven yes patty andy yes fudge yes conway yes

okay that passes six to zero and then we'll move on to item number 27. um is there a staff

presentation for this item again we do not have a presentation planned but are here to answer

questions okay and we did not have anyone sign up to speak on this item do council members have

questions all right is there a motion i move to adopt on first reading ordinance number 080 2026 making a supplemental appropriation from the colorado department of local affairs authorizing a transfer of appropriated funds and approving an intergovernmental agreement for the Transit Oriented Communities Infrastructure Program.

Second. Okay, that's moved by Council Member Fudge and seconded by Council Member Nelson. Is there any further discussion? And will the clerk please call the roll?

Nelson? Yes. Hoven? Yes. Paduyandi? Yes. Fudge? Yes. Conway? Yes. Pina Taro?

Yes. All right, that motion passes 6-0, and then we will give it just a moment.

All right, thank you. All right, we are on to item number 28, which is supporting the Front Range Passenger Rail District's narrative summary. Is there a staff presentation for this item?

There is a presentation. I'm going to go ahead and invite Karen Champagne for one last week, planning development and transportation, and Seth Lorson, our transportation planner, to do a brief overview of this item. So I think I will turn it to Karen to get us started. Thank you so much. It's lovely to be here. Yes, final PDT evening.

Yeah, again, my name is Karen Champine. Also with me is Seth Lorson, who has been our project manager and lead for the Drake Station planning effort.

We're happy to be here to bring forward a resolution and discuss support for that.

So we'll just hit a few highlights to set the stage. And then we're here to answer any questions.

We also have our friends from Front Range Passenger Rail and Colorado Department of Transportation to answer any other questions that may come up that maybe Seth and I can't answer.

first question of course is whether there is support for the resolution

it is a supportive resolution for the front range passenger rail districts it's really just

indicating support for the narrative and support for the conversations to continue going forward

real quick summary of the contents of that resolution expressing support for front range

passenger rail. It also adopts, it kind of endorses the narrative that's included in

the resolution about the transit station. And then it also is about accepting front

range passenger rail district's local return funding if the ballot initiative passes.

So real quick, just to just reorient everybody from the work session that we had around the

this is that there are two conversations happening about rail. There is one conversation that you may hear referred to as joint service. That is a funded, smaller scale, kind of proof of concept

rail service that the state and multiple partners at the state level are executing. That is already funded. A station is already identified in Fort Collins at the Drake and College area.

And that includes three round trips a day. It includes, I was just double checking the number

of stations on the rail. There's eight stations on this particular level of service. And then really what the resolution is more focused on is the full service overview. So if the ballot initiative passes, what will happen, joint service will then be enhanced and upgraded to this full service construction that would actually have the joint service is Denver to Fort Collins. The ballot initiative service is Fort Collins to Pueblo. So a longer system, more round trips, and more stations.

the station location as i mentioned for the joint service as well as the recommended station for the build the build out after the ballot initiative is in the drake location or drake and college

location hard to see this visual on the screen i'm sure but generally just giving you a sense of current conditions and orient you orienting to you to what's around the station the circle is Is that a half mile radius?

So a half mile radius is the circle. What you can start to see is the color shading or just the different development patterns that exist. And then some of the lines are really around what are the bus line connections, what are the trail connections near the station.

So if you're looking closely, you can see the max line running north and south, route 7 along Drake running east and west,

and then the Spring Creek Trail less than a mile north of the station. So a few landmarks. And then to the south, the big landmark would be the Foothills Mall, just to sort of ground you in what's half mile to a mile south of the station.

Another map that probably isn't very readable, but really, if you're looking at it closely, it's great reference to just give you a sense of smack in the middle of the bullseye is the location of the station.

So you can start to get a sense of what is a half mile, a mile, three miles from the station to get a sense of, wow, that's when you really think about the kind of what they call the catchment area of the station.

You look out, you know, three miles. That's a significant portion of our community, especially when you look at it centered the way that it is.

so we'll just wrap up with the question with the final question around whether council members support the resolution um and seth and are here seth and i are here if there's any questions

great thank you so much all right we do have a few uh public speakers signed up for this so we'll start with i'm sorry about lords or lordess you can tell me which one And then we'll go to Rich.

All right. Thank you. My name is Lourdes Maria Alvarez. I'm a proud District 5 resident. While I serve on the Transportation Board, I am speaking here today in support of Inner City Rail as a private citizen. When I retired, my wife and I left San Antonio, Texas, because it was unlivably car-centric. Prior to that, we had lived in large and medium-sized cities on the East Coast, where we often didn't even own a car and frequently used inner-city trains. We chose Fort Collins because of its excellent biking infrastructure and recreational opportunities, and because we can commute to work, do errands, go to the gym, buy groceries, or enjoy a pint at a brew pub while leaving the car at home. Since moving here, we have been struck by how many others elected to move to Fort Collins for the very same reasons. by how many others elected to move to Fort Collins for the very same reasons. ! Sometimes even if this requires that they commute to Boulder or Denver for work. ! There was a bit of a trade-off for us in choosing Fort Collins because the lack of inner city ! means battling traffic to go to Denver or Boulder or Colorado Springs. ! And let's face it, the older we get the less time we want to spend on the highway. ! So we're excited by the prospect of Coco coming to Fort Collins. National Environment, National Environment, National Environment, National connected to the MAX and to other bus lines, as well as the Mason and Spring Creek bike trails. It's convenient to CSU. It might even help ease traffic congestion for games. It should help spur denser and more transit-oriented development in that area and along the MAX corridor, something I know that our City Council supports. I ask you to enthusiastically endorse this generational opportunity to bring inner-city passenger rail to Fort Collins at the Drake location. Let's bring Coco to FOCO. Thank you.

Thank you. Rich? Oh, sorry. There's no applause in the chambers. All right. Rich, and then we'll

go to Sarah. Wow, what a follow-on. Rich Stave, average citizen of Fort Collins, 80525. Thank Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Counselors. I want to not overbuild that, but I have to point to several things along the way here. While I think Front Range Rail is an idea that's been out there for a while, and it's not terribly bad, the question a lot of times is how is it going to contribute to the multimode transport ideas? And when I look at that, I kind of go like, well, let's talk about South Transit Center closer to where I spend my time. And I go like, well, they basically put in a housing development with insufficient parking. So people park in the South Transit Center parking area at night. They park along the local streets, which never used to have parking. I've seen him parking across the road, and there's issues associated with that. And I know also, not too far from Drake, but you go a little bit further, they came up with the idea that they would put up student housing, and students, you know, they're close to CSU, they're not going to need parking. That has never, ever worked, because they had to come back and put in a parking structure. There should probably be a parking structure at the South Transit Center. I know people that would like to go out of town and they'll park in that parking lot. It's not a bad idea because everywhere else you're going to have to pay for parking. So I think this idea that we can do everything and the parking will go away and people are going to walk through the snow five miles uphill both ways to school and back probably needs to be rethought. But thank you very much.

Thank you. Sarah and then Israe.

Hi, I'm Sarah Parker, and this is my son Warren. We both live in District 4, and we're here to support the Front Range Rail Station at Drake. We only live about a mile from there, so we're excited to take our bikes and hop on the train to Denver and go to the zoo or museum or sporting event or something, and then especially hopefully we can even bring our skis on and then connect up with the Winter Park train. So we're just here to say we're really excited and we can't wait for that. Thank you.

Thank you. Ezra and then Kyle.

Good evening. Hi, I'm Ezra Shtyar from District 3. I'm very excited to actually be talking about something other than block for once. No, I used to actually do this last year. But anyway, so I want to shift the conversation around the train station a little bit from from where the train station should go into what we're going to do after. So I'm going to go back a little bit to 2013 when the MAX was just being constructed. It wasn't running yet. And the city came out with a Midtown plan, the idea to turn Midtown into a vibrant urban center, a walkable community hub, replacing asphalt parking lots with pedestrian-friendly shops, adding new plazas and adding a new promenade. And here we are 13 years later. Some of that has been implemented. A lot of it has not. And most of the rest of the plan is out of date. Now, I understand the reasons why we're putting the station in Midtown. And I've also heard a lot about how this is going to potentially revitalize the area or spur investment. And I think that is great. I think that area absolutely needs that. But what I think this plan shows and what happened with the MAX is that just putting in a transit line and just saying that we're going to spur investment does not automatically lead to a change in the community and change that area. So I think that this really needs, if we're going to put the train station in Midtown, that area needs to be a priority. We need to put a lot of focus. The Midtown plan is 13 years out of date. I really think that needs to be updated. We need to have a new plan, knowing that we're having a train station there for how we're going to revitalize that area. Thank you.

Thank you. Kyle?

Hi, all. Thank you so much for your time. I'm here like Ben, Lourdes, a lot of other people to support Resolution 2026090. know. I love trains. I lived for some time in Spain. We took the train up to Madrid, a lot of different places, and I just fell in love with the affordability of it, the efficiency, the sustainability. I would love using the train. I would hope to go down to Denver for Rockies games, down to Boulder, down to Longmont, along with the maps that we were shown. For a date night, it would be a lot easier than going on I-25. And honestly, I have pretty severe anxiety going on I-25 I have exacerbates that. So having a train, a safe space where I can be would be awesome. I also support the Drake station for the reasons outlined by others. And in the agenda item summary, there's existing infrastructure. It's central. I say that I live over by the Foothills Mall. I don't say that just for myself, but for also the city and like in the map that we saw. It's close to trails. I also do want to agree with Leedy that I think there should be an emphasis on accessibility. So just as if this goes forward, I would hope that'd be a main priority. Yeah. And I don't know. I think also just beyond all the practical sides, I support the train because it's a lot of fun. Yeah, that's all I've got. I just encourage you as a constituent to support that narrative summary and use this momentum rather than Getting bogged down in these questions or like proposing a million dollar or multi-million dollar change of the station rather than Doing something that would likely have support from the general public in on in a ballot initiative

So thank you so much. Thank you. That is everyone. We have signed up for this item So do council members have any questions or comments? Councilmember Nelson.

Yeah. I heard the accessibility concerns earlier about the Cocoa stations and I'm not sure who to address. We'll start with you guys. That might be better for people in charge of stations overall, but at least in Fort Collins, I mean, there are multitude of reasons why the stations would need to be fully accessible to anyone. I would love to hear your thoughts.

Yeah, absolutely. There's going to be requirements that the district and CDOT will be mandated to follow. And I know that incorporating universal design is a pretty common practice now with trains and platform design. What we'll be doing as part of our station planning process is sort of looking outside the footprint of the actual platform and designing and planning for universal accessibility to the station or, you know, whatever we would engage the Disability Advisory Board and other stakeholders in those conversations so that we can start to get that input and identify what are the most certainly prioritizing. What are the first investments that would be needed when, particularly when joint service starts? What do we need then? What do we need if the ballot passes and we have a new, like, more built-out platform? And then, of course, long-term. So we'll want to be thinking about all the horizons of accessibility needs.

But I think we can be assured that regardless of whatever level of station exists, it would be fully accessible to anyone. Yeah, thank you. No special phone calls, I mean, something that anyone can use in the same way. Is that fair to say? Okay.

Yeah, fair to say it will be absolutely accessible, and it will certainly be an enhanced focus for the city's efforts in planning. Thank you. Yeah, that's great.

Councilmember Potion.

Thank you, Mayor, and thanks for the presentation. I'm going to be enthusiastically supporting this. as I spoke about in our previous work session, I think the Midtown location is ideal. I think the central location makes it more accessible to all of Fort Collins residents. And when I think about this resource, although I am excited about the opportunity for folks coming north to see how great Fort Collins is, I see it more as an opportunity for folks in our community to have expanded transit options and I think that central location is ideal. I also resonate with Azraa's comments and we also got a really helpful email from a resident about how we do this is an opportunity for us to look at Midtown and start to envision how this could be a catalyst for Midtown to be all that it can be and be an even more vibrant part of town and so I think we can be really thoughtful about that. So I just think this is kind of a generational opportunity as somebody called it. And I'm, like I said, enthusiastically supportive. And I know that there is a desire for us at some point to be looking at maybe stations in other locations should COCO end up being a smashing success, which I hope it does. And I heard that that door is open, but I'm going to support the resolution as it is written currently and I am excited to do so cut my foot

Thank you. I also enthusiastically support this resolution for a lot of the reasons that the Previous speakers and councilmember Pat Yandy mentioned. I'll just point out again that a lot of work has gone into negotiating this location Initially, it was going to be on the south end of town and it's moved up to the to the center of town, which is great but further delay in negotiation would be incredibly difficult, incredibly time-consuming, and incredibly expensive. And so I really think that this is the solution that kind of fits all the best criteria. And when it's a smashing success, I hope we can look at other stations and other parts of town as well. So thank you. Thank you. Mayor Pertun? Yeah, I actually had a

question just one so someone mentioned the midtown plan which I think was done in 2013 I will lean on you to name all the plans that are kind of helping us shape this area as well but I am like testing myself because I feel like I know a couple of them we of course have city plan our transit oriented development overlay that we just recently approved a couple months ago URA has plans in this area and what else? We have a really strong starting point with City Plan

already calling for this area to be a thriving community center with walkable you know streets and things like that so very aligned with City Plan and then Active Modes Plan is another one where it's really our integrated multimodal strategy. Our climate future is always a really important one, although not necessarily geographically grounded OCF, as we call it. The principles certainly will be part of the vision here as well. So those are a few that I can think of off the top of my head, too. And the transit master plan as well. Yeah.

Thank you. And congratulations, by the way, on your new position. Thank you. You've done an amazing job as the overseeing PDT for us, so thank you.

Other questions or comments? Yeah, Councilman, I'm hoping.

I, too, have just a quick question because throughout this process, my questions in general have not been insurmountable as far as supporting the project. I am curious, though. We do not know the tax rate yet that will be presented on the ballot initiative, correct?

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We are currently modeling out a 0.333 one third of a penny on a $1 purchase.

Oops. Thank you. because in the resolution, I just want to make sure that letter M, before referring a ballot measure to the citizens of Front Range Passenger Rail District, will provide accurate narratives of each station.

So I just want to make sure that I'm understanding all of this

because I enthusiastically support this initiative. My questions, my previous questions have been answered. that I just wanted to get clarification on real quick.

The narrative they're referring to is in your packet as Exhibit A, and it's just a couple paragraphs just describing the context of the station location.

Just a couple paragraphs just describing the context of the station location. ! Thank you. ! And it also means that we, by supporting the resolution, we are not recommending or referring this to ! That's correct. ! Thank you. Then, yes, I agree with Lourdes that we need to get Coco in FOCO. Thank you.

Any other council members? Council member Nelson and then council member Connolly.

Thank you. I think, ultimately, to the person who spoke earlier about consensus building, to the person who spoke earlier about consensus building, the professional in the room who does consensus building, the constituent feedback that I've gotten from District 6 is not a consensus, right? There are people who are wildly in favor of it and wildly opposed to the location. I don't think anyone, however, is opposed to the rail itself. And so also as a fellow train nerd lover of rail, and active or basically anything besides a car. I would support a rail station over no rail station.

So I'm planning on supporting the initiative, but wanted to really name that.

It's been a mixed bag of feedback

from the people I represent. So I'm wanting to name that. Thank you.

Councilmember Conner?

Yeah, I just had a question.

So, you know, I think I'm going to come around and reluctantly support this, even though I think the location is somewhat suboptimal.

My question is, what kind of outreach we're doing to folks on the western side of this station? One of the things that has been disappointing about the midtown or the results from the max line, and I think that's made pretty clear when you look at the midtown plan from 2013 and what it looks like today, is and part of that I think is that the western half is not very activated between Prospect and Drake what kind of outreach have we done reaching out to CSU and other folks I think the federal government has buildings there as well trying to see what kind of interest there is in redevelopment or that kind

of thing thanks for the question and we have started to pull together the

different stakeholders for the Drake station planning effort but we're

learning more and more along the way. So the list is not closed by any means. But I will hand it off to Seth to talk a little bit more specific about what it might look like for the west side.

Thank you for that question. We have created a stakeholder committee and it's mostly just stakeholders that represent interests close to the Drake Station. As we haven't

And until now, really shown city support for this location, knowing that we're moving forward

with this location, we haven't really done a comprehensive public engagement campaign. I was speaking with our consultants just today about that's going to be our next step, is that we are going to go out to everyone and ask people really, what's their intent for using it?

How are they going to use it? how can we in our stationary planning accommodate that use and really make it the best we can for our community.

So has CSU or the federal government expressed any interest in

or had any talks at all with you yet about the West Side?

We have had talks with CSU and they are on the stakeholder committee.

we have had some kind of not direct support for them amending their campus plans per se but we did ask to look at Bay Road specifically if we could look at some planning efforts around that and they said yeah you can look at that and so we're continually working with CSU and And also working and reaching out to the federal center as that starts to grow and evolve as well.

Okay. I appreciate it. So, you know, as you know, I think this is going to – I really hope that this is a very successful program. I really hope we can look at another site for a possible future station further north in the future. I'll just say I think we need to do a lot of work as a city to make sure that we make the success in the way that some of the plans around the max line were not. So that's going to be right in line with a lot of what we're working on in terms of our number one priority that we're working on in the AdDoc committee. I think, yeah, right now this is a really hostile place as a pedestrian and a bicyclist, and we're going to have to try to transform it into a much different kind of place when people step off the train into the future. So I'll leave my comments there. I'm going to support this, although my comments are on the record with reservations about the station. So appreciate this work and I'm looking forward to a future where we can take a train down to

Boulder, Longmont, Denver, etc. Any other questions or comments? I'll just follow up with I think that council is enthusiastic about a train coming to Fort Collins and I think it's evident because everyone is advocating for the train to be in their district or near their district which I think is great and everyone's doing a great job showing up for their district and their constituents. I think at the end of the day it's going to be such a benefit to Fort Collins to have a train and if Midtown's the best location identified through that, then we can move forward with that. So just thank you for all your work and thank you for your reporting to the staff here. And so it's just exciting. I know that this has been on people's minds for a very long time and to see some traction and action and the hope that this is going to work is very apparent. So thank you. With that, is there a motion for this item?

Yeah, I move to adopt resolution 2026-090 supporting the Front Range Passenger Rail District's narrative summary for proposed Fort Collins Station and the development of passenger rail service along the Front Range. Second.

We have a motion by Mayor Pro Tem and a second by Council Member Hovind. Any further discussion? Seeing none, will the clerk please call the roll?

Nelson? Yes. Hovind? Yes. Paddyandi? Yes. Fudge? Yes. Conway? Yes. Frances? Yes. Pina Terro?

Yes. That passes 7-0. All right. We'll move on to item number 29, which is flock retention and data sharing. Is there a staff presentation?

There is a staff presentation. We'll go ahead and invite Police Chief Jeff Svoboda up, as well as Adam McCambridge, one of our assistant chiefs, and give them just a second here to settle in.

All right, Chief, you ready? Ready to go. All right.

Thank you very much, and good evening, Mayor, members of Council, City Manager DiMartino. I'm Jeff Swoboda, your police chief, and I'm joined tonight with Assistant Chief Adam McCambridge. And really just want to say thank you once again for letting us come before you and talk about FLOC. And truly want to say thank you to so many people who have come forward and expressed concerns. We've had a chance to talk with many of them in the lobby and really just want to say that it's not going unheard by any means. One of the things that I want to be very clear about is I, as the police chief and my command staff and the officers, we don't want to have any technology that's going to erode trust. Like that's not what we're trying to do. And we are dealing with some competing community interests here. And so I think that's where, and you all know this, Anybody that's suggesting this is a no-brainer isn't just thinking about the other side. Because it's truly people we speak to regularly, victims of crime, people who have lost their parents and don't know where they're at, and we find them. And so that's not to suggest that the technology is an absolute, but it's also not to suggest that it's a ridiculous technology to employ. I really appreciate the dialogue in between. And I just truly want to say I agree with so much that has been said here. And so we have been using FLOC for about 18 months. As our patch say, we've been in service to this community for more than 100 years.

FLOC is not a foundational technology that if that goes away, we're done for. We solved crime before FLOC. We will continue to solve crime if FLOC goes away.

So I just wanted to make that very clear. This is not something that we are suggesting. Without this, we are not going to be a professional police department that can't operate. That's by no means. it's just helped us solve some crime. And I get in the middle there, there's a lot of questions. And so I just wanted to make sure that that was very clear. This is not something we are, you know, again, without FLOC somehow, we're not going to be able to be a police department and serve this community. We were here in February. We gave you a document in March. We were back here in May. And now we're here again tonight, really to answer, to ask two questions. And I'm sure there'll be even more dialogue than just these two questions. But the two we have that we're interested in having answered tonight is how long do we want to keep the data?

I'm going to go through a presentation pretty quick and then open it up because I think that's where the meat of this will be. And then the second part of it is who do you want us to share with? So those are the two things. So starting now, we'll go through with this. As you can see, we've, as you all know, we've had the, we keep the data for 30 days, but that's open for, you know, we can change that. We can go down to anything we want. We did it in a matter of weeks there. And we're going to go through who uses the data. And, again, this is a two-week-old presentation. This is part of the reason I'm going to go quick because many people have already seen it. There's no surprises here. But we can make that whatever we would like that to be. Moving on, how long the data is available and accessible in the cloud. That is number one. And I should have switched seats. Adam, can you turn the screen just a little bit? Thank you. How long the data is accessible for us is what we want to talk about. Once it's deleted, it's permanently deleted for all users. So it's not as if it's somewhere else.

It's just gone for us to be able to get.

The retention period must be the same for inside Fort Collins and outside. That is something we are hoping that if we continue on with Flock that they can address because there are good reasons why those could be two different lengths of time. Right now it's apparently technologically difficult, but we also recognize it's not necessarily a good answer to our question. So while we posed it, we are hoping that if we keep with FLOC that we can have those conversations and determine if there are two different retention periods for how Fort Collins Police Services use it and then how people outside of Fort Collins Police use it. And that is something that is set by contract, so a change would require an amendment to that. So what impacts the flock search timelines? First, you all know that people don't report crime the moment it happens. So why, you know, sometimes people ask, why would you need to go back 30 days? You know, people come out of work and they find out eight hours later that their car, something happened to it. People come home from vacation. They find out that their home was burglarized. There's a lot of reasons that people might not report crime. Shame and guilt can also play a part in that, too. So it's sometimes not super clean that a minute someone realized they're the victim of a crime that they call the police.

There's a delay there.

Interviews and follow-ups, and some of this is a little bit back and forth, but as an investigation goes forward, we get a little bit of information. We run that down. Detectives or officers start working that. We might talk to another victim or another witness that saw something who gives us another piece of information. Then we can go back to this system and others and determine then we would run a new search. So it's not as if when we find out someone has been the victim of a crime, we have all the information in front of us, and then we just do all of the investigation right then. It's an iterative process, new information, running new leads, talking with new witnesses, talking with maybe potential additional victims, and then again circling back around and checking again. Patrol is the immediate response to crimes in progress. The investigations tend to be shorter. People probably understand that. The patrol officer in uniform shows up, starts the investigation. If they're going to check back on data, it's going to be data probably that just happened, unless someone's reporting to a patrol officer something that happened previously. But generally, our patrol officers are handling those calls that are right in front of them. And I've got a few charts that will show that. And then detective cases, you know, those are the ones that are doing the follow-up. And the minute a crime gets reported and an officer writes a report, it doesn't land on a detective's desk.

And that detective starts running with that investigation.

Obviously, a major case, a homicide, something like that, that's going to be assigned immediately. But many other cases will be one of dozens of cases that a detective might be responsible for.

So they prioritize based on what's going on, what the crime was, and day of the week,

because it might change who they're going to talk to and that type of thing. So it's a little bit different for the detectives.

this here everyone saw this was the the searches zero to seven days the line share these are all of our searches for the one month we think that's indicative of all of for the most part there wasn't anything sergeant younger who really checks our data didn't notice anything different but sure any any month could be a little bit different could be heavier in patrol less than

detectives the middle weeks could be higher or Lor it's this was just a snapshot so the first

week and then the last. And then how do we do this by patrol against what I just talked about? Patrol is generally doing those searches within the first week. They're looking back just one week because the crime's right there happening in front of them. And detectives would be then using the most of the cases that they're checking on are the ones that are the oldest. It was even interesting to us that those middle two weeks are so low. So that was just an interesting piece of data. Okay, so that was the first question. So how long do you want to keep the data? It's whatever you want it to be. The second question is, who do we share with? Currently, share FLOC data with only Colorado agencies. There was a time when we first started, we were sharing with everyone across the nation. This has been a process that we're learning many times from great questions from our community. And so we decided as well that it makes more sense to share Just with Colorado, we have laws. ! Just with Colorado, we have laws that everyone in Colorado has to follow. ! But someone in New York, Mississippi, you name it, might have something completely different. ! And the concern that once the data is outside of ours, and it's to everybody else, a valid concern. ! I mean, that's been an issue with police data, not just flock, any type of police data. You know, we can be comfortable with what we're doing and the data and how secure it is and how we're using it from our officers. But when you're sharing with people from around the country, even around the state, we can't always be that every single person is going to have the same level of professionalism. be that every single person is going to have the same level of professionalism. Everyone is going to be as strict in enforcing rules. That's just that's with any business probably, but definitely in policing you go to different agencies. You get different cultures that do things sometimes differently. We could further limit that as well, kind of just like with the date and time through council direction. You could say, you know, we don't see a real reason why you'd sharing with anybody from, you know, south of Denver, or we just want you sharing with people in Larimer County. That's something that we can go through and just identify city by city and select those and deselect, not share with other people. There's been a question, well, if we're not sharing with other people, will they not share with us if we call them? I would like to think that the answer to that would be no, people would still share with us in policing. And we're trying to hopefully all move in the same direction to if somebody's doing an investigation to hold somebody accountable and seek justice. And so if somebody knew we weren't sharing because our council said we don't want it to share with people that far away, I don't believe police departments would then come back and say, well, then we're not going to share with you. If we're investigating a crime, that would be my guess. But again, this is in some ways, a lot of this is evolving in front of us in

many ways. And we can talk about, you know, restricting access to other agencies that violate the law or have these issues. I know in one of the comments that was, now it's been a couple weeks ago, but, you know, sharing with people that have already had issues. And I think what we're talking about here is, you know, violation of the state law. There have been people that have been

using the system that were authorized to use that system in that city and have since addressed that and tighten that up. But we see that exact same way. In fact, we just had a police leaders conference with people from around the country and had a robust discussion about what is FLOC's responsibility in this? Why am I as the police chief having to figure out that city so-and-so did something inappropriately and so then I have to go in and restrict their access versus a company? And so I think there's some nuance there on what that looks like based on agreements that FLOC has with individual cities. But that is one of the concerns. We would only know that

there was a violation if somebody told us or we heard about we read about it in the paper but

I'm not reading you know newspapers from all over the state as well so it that is one of the challenges that we have so real quick which flock data retention option would council like us to move forward with whatever your pleasure is on that and does council want to restrict sharing data with outside agencies or just keep it with Fort Collins or Larimer County whatever what have you. We didn't want to change the PowerPoint, so the next one has a timeline, which is already kind of blown up a little bit because we were

supposed to do this two weeks ago, but you did get something from Assistant City Manager Rebecca Rupa.

And then July 21st, we're going to have more

conversations, especially July 28th, with their surveillance policy. So some of this is in flux because Citizen Review Board and discussions about is it feasible

for them, what level of oversight would they have if that's what you wanted to do. So we've got a timeline. I know the surveillance policy we've been meeting every week on some of those and what do we want that to look like. And so I think this will continue to evolve.

But I think for that, we'll pause there and just really answer any questions that you all may have for us tonight. Thank you. We have three people signed up for this item. So we'll go to public comment. And we'll start with Marge and then Janice.

Hi, I'm Marge Norskog. I live in District 2. Tonight's agenda summary has this statement. The FLOC system is optimized through collaborative networks that share real-time information. What does this mean? I think it means that Fort Collins is part of a de facto network created and controlled by FLOC Group Incorporated. They have built the front range section of their network contract by contract with cities and counties across Colorado. So effectively, we are part of a network with no formal data sharing agreement among members. Colorado members are held to state law. Individual contracts can vary significantly. One example, in Fort Collins' contract, we own both the footage and the images created by Flock software. In contrast, Commerce City owns the images, but the raw footage is owned by Flock as their intellectual property. Another concern, Flock Systems has been presented as a license plate lookup tool, but that is not where Flock tools stop. Our Fort Collins purchase order includes the Esri-based map interface feature. In plain terms, this is an AI mapping feature that combines simple license plate images into a history of a person's movements without a warrant. In conclusion, powerful surveillance tools need oversight that will stand up to changes in personnel, council and contract renewals. Body cameras and red light cameras have both ordinance and policy for their implementation and use. Similarly, surveillance tools need to be defined and governed by both ordinance and policy. The current proposal before council is to create a surveillance

governance policy. If this is how council proceeds, council need not be consulted as surveillance technology use evolves and surveillance technology

implementation will continue to be defined in vendor contracts. Thank you.

Thank you. Janice and then Rich. Hi, my name is Janice Ord and I live in District 6. This evening I'm asking Council to establish an ordinance governing ALPR oversight rather than

relying solely on policy. The distinction matters. An ordinance is law. It is adopted by Council through a public process, codified in the municipal code, and cannot be changed without council action. A policy, by contrast, is an administrative directive that can be modified by future city managers or department leadership without a vote of council. As a general principle, if changing a rule quietly in the future could affect residents' privacy or civil liberties, that rule belongs in an ordinance. If it concerns routine operational procedures, policy is often sufficient. Clear and enforceable safeguards are necessities in the use of ALPR technology by Fort Collins. For that reason, I ask Council to include the following protections in an ordinance. First, data retention limits. Second, prohibition on sharing data for federal immigration enforcement purposes. Third, restrictions on real-time tracking of individuals without a warrant or reasonable suspicion. Fourth, mandatory public reporting. Fifth, clear prohibited uses. Sixth, data sharing restrictions. Seventh, review and approval by council of significant functionality updates. And finally, vendor data rights. ALPR technology may provide benefits to law enforcement, but public trust depends on durable guardrails. An ordinance would ensure that privacy protections, transparency requirements, and accountability measures remain in place regardless of future administrative changes. I respectfully ask Council to establish these protections in law. Thank you. Thank you. Rich?

Rich Stave, Average Senate of Fort Collins, 80525. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, counselors. I'm going to be on the opposite end. I'm going like, hooray for Flock. I think it's not a bad technology. I think it's a service that maybe even should be expanded and improved. There's lots of improvements that could be done there. When I look out, I go, well, what are examples of places where maybe Flock may not work? Every day when I'm driving along, I see autos without license plates. I see blacked out windows on the front and all the way around, so there's no way to tell anything there. I see things like vehicle trespass on side streets that don't have flock cameras or anything else for surveillance. I see reckless driving. I see accident investigation may be an area where it could benefit from that. I'm going like every day I walk by, you know, just walking by. What about a doorbell cam? I can imagine how many people in my neighborhood and neighborhoods around have a doorbell cam. No one goes off on those. Those are there. That stuff goes up into the cloud every day, every time, and no one ever bothers with that. Opt-out is not a realistic scenario. Other countries have put this technology to use far beyond what we're talking about here. And mainly it's a tool, not necessarily for enforcement and investigation, but it's just one of the tools that people that are trying to do a very difficult job may need to use to get the job done. Thank you very much.

Thank you. That is everyone. We have signed up for public comment on this item. Do council members have any questions or comments? Yeah. Mayor Parton.

Yeah, thank you. I want to go ahead and start our conversation off today. if I could thank you to all of you who have come as was stated we were supposed to do this two weeks ago but because of some unforeseen circumstances we only had four council members here and we wanted to make sure everyone had a chance to speak up so I want to the questions that have been asked of council as part of the presentation are actually questions I think we need to answer as part of the surveillance policy like how are we how do we want to handle the data retention data sharing networking etc I also want to make sure as part of the policy coming forward which I think we have a work session on the 20th of July is that we make this distinction between constant surveillance and targeted post incident capture so for me I think we can't answer these questions with this technology, and I would like to end what we have with FLOC, I was gonna say by July 1st, and then not put out an RFP for any type of similar technology until the surveillance plan is in place. So that is how I would like to move forward. Of course, we'll see what the rest of council says, but that's where I'm at, thanks.

Thank you. Other council members? Council Member Fudge, and then Council Member Nelson.

Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. I will agree with Mayor Pro Tem Pinotaro. My thinking, as I mentioned, after the public comment has really evolved over time. And so I said thank you for the patience that you've all shown, because I think had you asked me to give my opinion or vote on this back in February or March, I would have said we should keep the technology. I just want to state that Fort Collins police did not get into this for bad reasons. They didn't have an overarching surveillance goal. They had authority to enter into this contract. For them, as was mentioned, it was a tool to help make their jobs easier. We asked them to do more with less to keep our community safe. We don't have the resources to give them to do more things, and so this technology really helps them out. In my day job, a law enforcement agency that I work for did the exact same thing for the same reasons. It just wasn't on our radar as an issue like this back in, you know, last year. So my thinking really has changed during all this. Like I mentioned, I went into it thinking of it as an operational issue. It saves money. It gets the job done for less. It makes our cops jobs easier. But as we've listened to the public comment, we've seen the stories from around the country. For me, it's really changed to a philosophical issue, a more higher level, you know, how much surveillance do we want to have especially in this this day and age so I appreciate the trade-offs should we cancel the contract and maybe not even replacement or replace it this is an indictment this is not an indictment again of the police department I think you use the job use the tool professionally the right way but you mentioned that this is about trust and we've seen the stories from across the country if one of your officers has a bad day, makes a bad decision, goes public, all of that trust could be lost. So, and I don't think that matters if we keep the data for one day or for 30. It's going to be out there. So for me, surveillance is the issue. There's bipartisan, amazingly, concern about this issue. There are Republicans, there are Democrats who want to put limits on these types of technology. So I agree with Julie. I think we should go with option three from from back in a previous memo and the contract as soon as practical I'm interested in developing a process and procedure for the use of this I think we can continue down that road if we then issue an RFP I would be interested to see Depending on what our policies are if there is a responsive Vendor to that that can alleviate all these concerns. I'm not terribly confident that there would be But but I'm for continuing that so thank you

Thank you. Councilmember Nelson and then Hoven. Thank you.

Chief, I really deeply appreciate your candor and your honesty and just the willingness to collaborate and kind of progress through this topic with us. And that means a lot. And I want to be really clear about where I stand because I trust our police department. And I think our community does, too. And I've seen how you operate. I respect the work that you do. and I really believe that you would continue to use this technology responsibly but my concerns tonight aren't about Fort Collins Police Department they're about the policy framework that we're building and whether it's one that our whole community They're about the policy framework that we're building and whether it's one that our whole community can live with. ! I think part of my job is to represent constituents who can't or won't speak publicly and on this issue I'm thinking about people who have real reasons to live. ! Be a lot of people who have real reasons to live. ! Be a lot of people who have real reasons to live. ! Be a lot of people who have real reasons to live. ! Be a lot of people who have real reasons not to stand at a public podium and say so. I think about immigrants and mixed status families and people seeking reproductive healthcare. law right now explicitly prohibits Fort Collins police from sharing black data with ICE or using it to monitor access to abortion services for example but a policy prohibition doesn't make fear disappear and that fear is rational and for people already navigate in an uncertain environment I think knowing that their movements are logged by a publicly funded surveillance network has a real chilling effect on community participation so I also want to name that there are lots of people in our community who don't trust that today's guardrails hold tomorrow. And data policies change. Leadership changes. Laws change. And the people who are worried about that, I don't think are paranoid. I think that they're paying attention. So these are not fringe concerns that we're hearing. I think in every conversation I've had about this technology outside of this chamber and within it, I have not found a single person, save for one, who supports it without significant reservations. You made me change my speech.

We're going to have a discussion about it at any time.

And I want to say directly that the advocates who have pushed back on this issue are not casual critics. They know this subject matter deeply. The technology, the legal landscape, the data governance issues, and they have been collaborative, persistent, patient with this council through a really long process. And they have done that because they care about the safety of this community. And that deserves real acknowledgement. And I also want to name something that I think we haven't sufficiently grappled with, which is the evidence of FLOC's benefit to public safety in Fort Collins and how little it's been documented. I mean, we have definitely heard from your department that it feels helpful, and we have heard a handful of success stories, and I acknowledge that there are benefits to it. But I don't think that we've seen quantitative evidence, so real true data on case outcomes, on crime trends, on what the system has actually changed that would let us weigh the benefit against the cost with any rigor. and I think that matters because again as I said at the beginning your department our police department has worked so hard to build public trust in this community and I am really concerned that moving forward without that evidence risks the very trust that you've worked so hard to earn so I appreciate that limiting data retention is an attempt to address those concerns but I want to be honest that I'm not sure that a shorter retention window resolves the underlying question that we're being asked to answer, which is are we comfortable using public dollars for this level of surveillance infrastructure? A shorter retention period makes the system somewhat less risky, but it does not make it a different kind of system. So we are still building a network that passively records the movements of every vehicle in Fort Collins. And I think for me that is a meaningful line to cross, and I'm not sure that we fully reckoned with it. So I too would like to pause on this technology until we can clearly define the problem that we're solving for and put in place a system that actually protects people rather than starting with the vendors product and working backwards to justify it. so I'm not prepared tonight to can to support continuing this technology until we have that more complete conversation about guardrails that our community is actually comfortable with and I believe that we owe that conversation to both the constituents who are in this room again thank you for being in this room with us but we are also we just we owe that conversation to the constituents that are not with us in this room thank you thank you councilmember Hovind thank

Thank you very much. I agree with everything that's been said. As much as it makes me sad that we are potentially impacting your ability to help victims in our community, that's something separate. And overall, just right now, the means don't justify the ends. People I don't trust flock and people I right now I'm having a hard time with even our Department of Justice and and FBI and knowing that there's a 70 billion dollar fund now going to Department of Homeland Security who who's to say how they're going to use it and I would hate to put you in that situation I would to put our residents in a situation of complying to something that we don't believe in. And so I want to maintain the trust, and I want to make sure that nothing impedes that. So I'm going to go with what Council Member Fudge, and I believe Mayor Pro Tem Pignatero have selected to and save our questions as far as our retention policy and all of that with a new company because I trust is the most important in keeping our community safe and I want to support everyone in doing that so thank you so much for everything and thank you to all of our community members for just being so thoughtful in your advocacy thank you thank you anyone else

Yeah, thank you. So I think everybody has really wrestled with this. And again, I really appreciate

our Fort Collins Police Services folks and our community with being so patient with us.

But this has been a tough one for me. And I keep asking myself and have for the last couple months, like, why is this so hard for you to figure out how you feel about it? And I realized that part of it that the main reason I think I'm wrestling so much is it feels like it's a situation where we're building the plane while it's already in flight. And that is not how I operate. And so if I could get in my time machine, and we could do all of the things that we're thinking about doing around surveillance technology, before deciding to adopt technology, I think, I think I would be in a different space than I am now. And that is not an indictment of Fort Collins Police Services,

They were presented with a tool that makes their job easier, more efficient. It's a great tool for them. And they procured it, you know, within their rights.

And I do trust our Fort Collins Police Services. I think what's tough with this technology that I have realized as we've had these discussions is it moves quickly.

It's more nuanced. We've been receiving more and more data about how it's playing out in communities as we've had this discussion. And so, you know, a lot of mental gymnastics, and I don't think I'm alone in really having had some hard conversations with myself.

As I shared during our work session, I do feel like some of the low-frequency, high-risk crimes that Flock is useful for,

I worry about those as somebody who works with vulnerable populations.

but I do hear my colleagues on council and agree that, you know, a pause makes sense.

Whether we decide to return to any sort of shared network surveillance technology or not,

I think it's incumbent on us to take that pause and make sure that if we're going to do it, we do it right, you know, and do all the things we've talked about. I think, you know, for me, it's absolutely necessary that we have really robust interagency sharing agreements. And also, you know, we brought up the Citizens Review Board. I don't even know

if that's the right fit. I think, you know, if we do adopt this kind of technology, and we decide we want to have an audit process, I think it potentially should be a separate board that has

more expertise around cybersecurity. So, you know, the fact that I have unanswered questions

makes me think that even though there it is going to be a big tradeoff for Fort Collins Police Services, I think it's incumbent on us to at least take this pause to make sure that if we do decide to move forward and retain this kind of technology that we do it right

and with the correct level of guardrails. So I'm also on board with other folks' comments.

Anyone else? All right. I'll just make my comments that I appreciate everyone who has come out, I think, for six months is what somebody said. And just, oh, yeah, there you are in the back, Tyler. And appreciate you coming and showing up. And I will say, as some have said, that the information and the way you conducted yourself was very respectful and diligent and intelligent. So thank you all for doing that. And also to our police services for putting in so much work and effort to not only educate council, but educate the community. on how we use it very transparently, and I appreciate your efforts as well. I do want to clarify that I think there's been some questions around why this contract wasn't approved by council. And I'll just say not all contracts are approved by council, because if you think government moves slow now, that would reduce us to a crawl. So this is no, you know, Fort Consulate Services did not do this under the radar to go forward. This is just a normal thing that happens within the city. and you know similar to what's been said I would hate that if we continue with this contract and something happened and it resulted in something negative that would just erode the trust that Fort Collins Police Services has built up so much and I just don't think that trade-off is worth it so I am in favor of supporting this to cancel the contract now and then create our surveillance policy I do want to clarify that when we are talking about canceling Flock contract this is just for the city of Fort Collins this is 15 cameras out of the 50 so I don't want anyone having the illusion that all plot cameras are now to Fort Collins it's just what the city controls which I see a lot of thumbs up in the audience so a lot of you know that but those watching at home

so yeah thank you councilmember Conway yeah I'll just say I think I was this was a like a 51 49 nine issue for me. I came to the conclusion that there were some public safety benefits

and that there were ways that we could ameliorate the privacy concerns. I think I totally understand

all the people who have been coming out night after night to raise their concerns about

this and the concerns of my fellow council people wanting to put together a robust system in place. So I think that makes sense as well. This is not an issue where I thought like,

oh I'm 100% on one side of it or the other it was one that I was hourly flopping back and forth with in my mind and then trying to be as forthright and honest with my deliberations as I could be and so I just want to put that on the record and thank all the folks who have come out and thank for Constance Police

Services and I look forward to the conversation in the future because I I suspect the conversation is not over because technologies like this are going to continue to to arise we're going to have to continue to make tough decisions around these and and make um you know basically judgment technical judgment value calls about whether different technologies are right for our city so appreciate everyone who came out and my fellow council people

and for collins police services great any other comments or questions all right is there a motion I have one more question. So I had thought about writing up the motion with a July 1st timeline, but that's to help with internal processes and the processes that you have around Flock. If I were to say July 1st or sooner, I'd just like some feedback.

Can we invite our legal representation up here?

Yeah, I mean, as far as, because we've heard the concerns about canceling it, but then still having cameras up, and so what is that going to bring forward?

Yeah.

Good evening, Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, Council Members. Andrew Trevino with the City Attorney's Office. It's kind of hard to answer that question exactly of whether or not we'll be able to make a July 1st date. We'll have to obviously go through the steps of notifying FLOC, going through the procurement process of actually terminating the contract, and then obviously going through the process of getting the cameras down. So it's kind of hard to answer that question, but we'll certainly move forward with exploring that. So I think we have evidence from other

communities that taking the cameras down takes a lot longer, and some have even gone to putting bags over them because they did not could not guarantee that they weren't still collecting data is there any reason that would not be an option here i don't know i mean i know the city has a

process and i'm kind of looking to carry i know we have a permitting process for the actual cameras and so i don't know if the option of actually physically covering the cameras is something that we can do but i do know that the city has a process for actual the actual physical hardware on the light poles that they're located on.

I can just add what might be helpful is just to direct staff to move as expeditiously as we can to deactivate or stop the cameras from collecting data and remove them and terminate or discontinue action under the contract as quickly as we can make that happen.

Okay. Yeah, I think I'm okay adding, or did you have more information? I saw you guys. I think Assistant Chief McCambridge might have some insight.

Yes, thank you. ! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Councilmember Nelson.

Just to be clear, what are the cameras mounted on? Are they mounted on flock-owned poles or are they mounted on city-owned poles? Telephone poles? Both. Both. Both? Yes.

Okay. And there's a variance process that allows the-

Both. Yes. And there's a variance process that allows the cameras to be mounted there? Is that right? Yes.

The city does have a permitting process, and FLOC did apply for permits for each of the locations for the city's cameras.

And those are temporary permits?

I believe they're revocable by the city.

What would that process look like?

I don't know. We'll have to talk to the engineering staff that administers our program.

I think they may be aware of this discussion, but I'm not sure what steps they've already kind of envisioned.

Okay. I see our chief has something to add. Thank you.

Thank you for that. So as you know, we came with two questions. You're answering one we didn't ask. so it's probably going to take us just a little bit but we can we think we can shut it off with

this but i mean within a day or so we could probably at least give you some update and also publicize that on social media if that's helpful but i don't know that we have a good answer for some of these technical questions i'm taking them down yet yeah i'm wondering if just a motion around

stopping the collective the collection of data and terminating the contract effective immediately is enough of direction?

Stopping the collection of data, yes, it sounds like. The contract.

Right, yeah, we can't make any promises that we can terminate the contract tomorrow, right? It's a process we have to go through, but again, something we'll move forward with if that's Council's direction.

What I would say is I think we can initiate contract cancellation immediately, And we will take just need a couple days probably to figure out exactly how long it will take for the termination to be in effect But we could initiate

Immediately that's why you're the city manager. All right, so initiate contract termination and stop collection effective immediately

Okay, any other questions or comments? Is there a motion?

Okay. I move that City Council direct staff to stop collection of flock data immediately and initiate contract cancellation as well as remove the cameras as expeditiously as possible and furthermore not to put in any new RFPs for similar technology until after the surveillance policy is completed. Second.

Who seconded that? Me. Nelson. We have a motion by Mayor Potem and a second by Council Member Nelson. Any further discussion? Seeing none, will the clerk please call the roll.

Hoven?

Yes. Paduyandi? Yes. Fudge? Yes.

Conway?

No.

Francis? Yes. Pinochero? Yes. Nelson? Yes.

All right, that passes 6-1, and we'll move on to other business. Is there any other business to come before council?

Seeing none, this meeting is adjourned at 8.21 p.m., and we'll be taking a 15-minute break

before moving next door to the CIC room to begin tonight's work session.

Good evening, Fort Collins. The time is now 8.38, and I call the work session to order. Will the city manager please provide a review of tonight's work session agenda?

Yes, thank you. So we have just one item tonight since this is a split evening, so no changes from the published agenda. And if it's all right with you, I will go ahead and turn it right over to Assistant City Manager Denzel Maxwell to kick off this item. And he's joined by Amanda King, our Chief Communications and Engagement Officer.

All right. Good evening. One of the priorities council identified this term was finding better ways to connect the community to council actions, decisions, and the reasons behind them. Since that discussion, staff has been building on communication efforts already underway while gathering feedback from council and community members about where there are opportunities to improve. Tonight is about checking in with you all on the progress made so far and share a proposed path forward. Amanda will be providing an overview of the work underway, highlighting key themes from the feedback we've received, and walk through recommended strategies to help residents better understand council priorities, engage earlier in policy conversations, or stay connected to the work happening on their behalf. We're looking forward to your feedback on whether the proposed approach aligns with your goals and whether there are additional areas you would like us to consider moving forward. I'll turn it over to you, Amanda.

Thank you, Denzel. Good evening, Mayor, Council members. Y'all were really efficient tonight. I thought I might be here quite later, so good on you. And hopefully a fun way to end the night. So as Denzel mentioned, we've got a couple questions for you this evening. Really wanting to make sure that what we've proposed as our ongoing work plan aligns with the goals and the feedback that you've shared previously, as well as any additional topics that you might want us to dive into as we're building out our content messaging strategy. So this was the original description. I'm not going to read this or dive into it, but really wanted just to pull out this one piece around the why. And this was feedback that we heard in our earlier conversations with you all around kind of what the intent of this priority is. And really, what we're trying to do here is better communicate the why behind your policy work, making sure that we're bringing people along with that policy discussion and also just finding more opportunities for just more general connection with the community so that they understand what you all are doing daily. The success metrics that we've identified really are around kind of some of our social media and digital media engagement and reach and then we also have annual community survey metrics that tell us how we're doing from a perception and sentiment analysis. This could also be something that we could look at in terms of actual event participation as we know you all are out and about in the community quite a bit. So a quick overview of the timeline. You've seen this before, although I will highlight that all the things that are kind of dark blue, which are the newer approaches that we're building on, have been accelerated, so a much earlier timeline than what we had previously shared with you.

Some of the feedback that we've heard, both from you all as well as some members of the the community, because we've been chatting with folks in a variety of spaces there, is that there's an opportunity to fill in some of the communication gaps, particularly early on in policy development, where maybe staff doesn't want to get ahead of council discussions.

There's an opportunity to also more generally share just what council is doing and why. Why are you doing what you're doing?

We heard about key audiences and making sure that we're not missing key parts of our community

AND ACTIVELY SEEKING FOLKS THAT MAYBE HAVEN'T BEEN ACTIVELY COMMUNICATING WITH US.

HOW DO WE DISTILL COMPLEX INFORMATION AND PROVIDE THINGS IN A MORE SIMPLE, PLAIN LANGUAGE APPROACH?

WE TALKED ABOUT JARGON AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND COMMON DEFINITIONS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICY WORK. AND THEN ALL WE KNOW IS FOLKS ARE ON SOCIAL MEDIA A LOT AND FOLKS ARE NOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA A LOT. SO WHERE ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO PLUG IN IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE MAYBE AREN'T ONLINE AND SOME NON-TRADITIONAL METHODS.

And then we heard a little bit about how do we engage influencers or other influential voices or partners within the community to help amplify or tell our story. And then finally, just another little plug for thinking outside the box, being creative, and continuing to have fun.

So we've been already doing a lot of work underway with just kind of starting with what we already have. We've got quite a robust system of platforms, tools, and messaging already underway. SO NOW WE'RE JUST ADAPTING THOSE TOOLS AND THOSE MESSAGES TO BETTER BRING IN YOUR PRIORITIES INTO THOSE EXISTING CHANNELS. SO OUR CITY IN 60 IS A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE WE'VE UPDATED OUR CONTENT CALENDAR FOR THE YEAR TO REALLY ALIGN WITH YOUR PRIORITY CONVERSATIONS OR ANY OTHER HOT TIMELY TOPICS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE MINING YOUR AGENDAS TO LOOK FOR THOSE SAME KINDS OF TOPICS THAT ARE OF MOST INTEREST OR IMPACT WHEN WE'RE PROMOTING YOUR upcoming discussions and council meetings and actually we've seen a really big uptick in social engagement for those pre-meeting posts so folks are actually engaging i also think it's a really lovely picture of you all so i think that's actually helped um and then all of our other social content how are we finding ways where we're connecting those dots to where there is alignment with your priorities um that's true for some of our other printed materials some of our reports and publications and then finally optimizing just our ongoing social media to have more of that in the moment, capturing kind of those things that just come up that occur that we want to make sure that the community is connecting with. So also underway, you all are very busy. You've been out in the community active with a lot of listening sessions, participating in city and community event activation. So obviously that's another connection point that will continue. I mentioned some of the feedback that we've solicited that has helped inform kind of some of our ongoing proposed strategies. And we've also been trying to leverage some of those local partnerships, both with media outlets as well as other organizations where we can have an opportunity to do some additional storytelling. So we're seeing some success just being able to kind of get in front of some different audiences that way. So pivoting to kind of the more ongoing strategy, we've explored five kind of key messaging themes and some different purposes and some different tools. So I'll touch on these a little bit but then I'll dive a little bit deeper in what that looks LIKE IN TERMS OF APPLICATION FOR YOUR PRIORITIES AND SOME OF THESE BIGGER TOPICS. SO ONE OF THE CATEGORIES IS WHY THIS MATTERS. SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT PURPOSE BUILDING, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME SHARED MEANING AND VALUES WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE SHORT VIDEOS, AGAIN, TAPPING INTO OUR CITY IN 60. THIS COULD BE STORYTELLING ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR IN OTHER AVENUES LIKE OUR CITY MANAGER'S QUARTERLY REPORT. WE'VE GOT SOMETHING AROUND WHAT'S HAPPENED AND WHAT'S NEXT. So as your policy work comes to fruition, you made some decisions tonight. That's really how are we explaining what you decided, what the impacts are, are there any next steps or actions people need to take. So this can be those recap posts, again, short explainers, summaries, engaging people with kind of the high level, what happened and what do I need to do? And then lastly, I'll just touch on the get involved. We know that there's also opportunities where people are going to want to have some influence and you are actively seeking input. So where are we sharing those opportunities making it easy for people to engage? So how are we promoting these public meetings? How are we making it easier for people to just participate? So diving in You'll see on the right hand side. We've got just some examples of similar messaging from other efforts But vision zero and thriving economy are two examples where why this matters is a really great approach because we do want to build that shared understanding and that shared meaning and we want to get our community to actually join us in that shared vision and so this is how we're telling the story of the why particularly when we know we're going to be making policy decisions that might have an impact on the community but helping them understand the why will get us more buy in and more support for for the policy changes how it works so really this is this is diving into complex topics and making it easier for people to understand and really distilling things. So conversations around this long-term financial sustainability. We know we have budget changes. We've got conversations around levels of service. So how do we distill that and break it down in a really easy to digest format for people so that they can have clarity and transparency into what we're doing when we're making those decisions? Utility rates is kind of a tangential connection point to those and again how are we sharing the story of the collective picture of our infrastructure how we want to be good stewards of repair investment and also make sure that we're supporting resiliency in our community for a long term so I mentioned this earlier though what's happened what's next again this is really related to policy development but can also be a powerful strategy for capital improvement projects or development projects where we know there's going to be an impact. We have a lot of construction sometimes. Sometimes that has an impact. And so the strategy here is just really to be transparent and clear with folks. This is what's going on. This is what it means. And this is how you can stay informed. So this might be a project page with regular updates. This could be posts around celebrating key milestones and then really demonstrating the impact when those things actually come to fruition. How many you know traffic incidences have we reduced how much additional capacity do we have for bike infrastructure so really bringing people into that kind of ongoing process and and what's the benefit to them and then the next one is around really the work that you're doing already you all are connecting with the community on a regular basis you're very active out there we've had several events recently. I know folks had listening sessions at Ecofest and at Pride. We've got Juneteenth coming up. I know we've got folks coming out for the Lagoon series. So our role here is to just amplify the opportunities and the access that our community has to connect directly with you all. This could be in the moment post. It can be promotions ahead of things, right? We do a lot of promotion of your listening sessions, but really making it clear to folks that you are out and about and meeting people where they are, and here's an opportunity for you to connect. another opportunity here is really I think highlighting and celebrating right in those those moments as well and so we've had a lot of celebration with the Puder Trail connection some amazing groundbreaking so highlighting your work in those different opportunities as well and then lastly this is the area of involvement so you know public meetings are obviously an important aspect for people but we don't want folks to feel like they have to come to a council meeting. There's a lot of other opportunities when we're actually soliciting information. I think about your recently established ad hoc committee around affordable and sustainable growth and plugging people into that process. We know we're going to have some pretty robust engagement processes around privacy and surveillance coming. we're going to have some pretty robust engagement processes around privacy and surveillance coming up. ! So this strategy is really making people aware of those opportunities to plug in, making sure that we're ! really finding the key audiences that need to have a say in those conversations and then reducing barriers ! so that folks have an easier access to participate. ! That will help people feel a little more access. ! And this is where we can throw a little fun in as well so that folks, you know, feel like government's a little bit more approachable so we can remind people that, you know, we're all people too and we we like to have fun and these conversations don't have to be so so stiff. OF FUN AND THESE CONVERSATIONS DON'T HAVE TO BE SO STIFF. SO THAT'S A HANDFUL OF EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE AREAS OF FOCUS THAT WE HAVE SORT OF SURFACED AND THEN WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER TOPICS. SO WE'RE WEAVING IN YOUR PRIORITIES INTO ALL THE DIFFERENT MESSAGING TOOLS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S THESE OTHER HOT TOPICS THAT BUBBLE UP AND COME UP. AND SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE ON OUR RADAR FOR THIS YEAR. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT YET THAT WILL POP UP AT some point as well so we'd love to hear in a moment if you have other topics that you think will be of importance to highlights a few other considerations when we're planning out these strategies obviously resourcing and capacity this is staff resource this is council resourcing to your capacity as well as budget investment so different tools take more time different strategies might have a cost associated if we're talking about advertising or print pieces or THINGS THAT HAVE MORE OF A HARD COST. THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO GOING TO INFLUENCE WHICH STRATEGIES WE LEAN ON AND WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO INVITE PEOPLE INTO THAT PROCESS. PRODUCTION TIME, THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE IF WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME, WE MIGHT HAVE TO ADJUST OUR STRATEGY. WE WERE FORTUNATE WITH RANKED VOTING THAT WE DID HAVE A LONG LEAD TIME AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO EMPLOY A LOT OF TACTICS TO RUN EXPLAINER VIDEOS AND WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INVESTMENT TO BOOST THE EXPOSURE FOR THAT. Demand and reach. So a lot of this is, you know, if we don't have a demand for the information, but we are trying to reach folks, we'll need to have some investment to boost things. We're kind of at the mercy of algorithms, particularly on digital platforms. And it's actually a pretty low barrier to just a little bit of investment can really expand reach. I think we had a pretty small investment in YouTube for our explainer videos for ranked voting, and we ended up reaching about 200,000 people with a pretty low investment. So those are all things that we'll want to consider. And then lastly, as we're tapping into influencers or other agencies or partners across the community, we love that, that we can amplify, and also we want to make sure that we're shaping that narrative. So next steps, continue to leverage our existing base and optimizing those strategies to better incorporate your priorities. Finalize our ongoing strategy based on feedback from tonight's conversation and then implement tests refine It's an iterative process for us to you know see what's working best and then We'll be checking back in with you on a quarterly basis with your regular priorities check-ins and so with that I'll turn back to our discussion questions Around just does this align with your goals and the feedback and any other topics you would like us to highlight as we're building out our content strategy

Great. Thank you. Do council members have any questions or comments?

Melanie. Thank you and thanks for the presentation. I have two questions. First, I'm trying to think what my questions are. First, I was curious, where are listening sessions being publicized on the website? I know that we've switched over to a website, but I have some folks who have said they've had a tougher time finding listening session things on the website, not just on the social media.

Yeah, so we put them in the Colorado one. We do social media. They're added as an event to our events calendar on the website, and then we do issue press releases. So they would also be listed under our news releases.

Okay. So events calendar, though, if somebody feels like the website is where they like to keep tabs,

that's where it is? Yeah, and on the home page, we have kind of three rotating tabs. So we've got spotlights, which is kind of timely, hot topic information. Then we have our news tab. So that is just sequential of the most recent news releases. those will be the top three will be featured. And then events, same thing. Sequentially, the next three events coming up on the calendar will be featured. So sometimes they show up on the homepage, but they're there in those bigger lists of the news releases and events.

Okay. And I'm seeing that now. I think it's just, you know, anytime there's a redesign of a website, people are used to saying things one place and then they're having a tough time shifting. And then my second question was, especially with you expanding the kind of content that we're putting out on social media. When you run analytics, are there certain posts that you're noticing do catch a lot of traction or are getting a lot more feedback? Like, have you noticed

trends? Yeah. Obviously, these hot topics, right, they tend to garner a lot of engagement. Sometimes a lot of the, like, investment in our inclusivity and belonging gets a lot of traction and not always the most positive. And that's a challenging space. However, the more engagement you get the more exposure it gets more broadly too and so even if it's sometimes negative it actually does help us get more exposure to all of the positive as well so those tend to do really do really well and then dependent it's very topic dependent obviously you had a big topic tonight on your regular meeting so when we've had that on the agenda that has garnered a lot of

engagement and commentary as well thank you for that and then i also want to say city in 60 is

relatively new, right? Yes, this is its second year. So we, yes, last year was its first kind of conceptual launch, and this year we're really honing in on, again, that content calendar. Just

personally, I think those are great. So thank you guys for putting those out there. Yeah. Thank you

all for being willing participants in that. Other questions or comments? Really? Great. Thank you so

much. Okay. So I have some specifics and some things we didn't cover here, but they're make questions. Things have come up. So I want to first go off of what Melanie said. And I know I've been giving feedback for a while about what's happening with the search, but just as an example, when you put in listening session, the first one that comes up is from February. And so it does list that there's 39 results, but it just jumps around from February to April to January to March. Like there's definitely something wonky with the search

on the new website. That's something we can definitely take to our vendor. So, um,

I, I, uh, love, I mean, I know I don't, is the why new the, in your slides, you had the why.

So it was pulled from commentary that we had with our original discussion. And so you probably have

not seen it in a print format. Okay. I love it. Like it is, I mean, it is a great, um, yeah, I think for me it is exactly what I was hoping. Um, I'm a little worried about the success metrics because there's not a lot of them, but I do also realize it's really hard in this space. I'm curious, and maybe this is something you could work with a city manager's office is just, it doesn't happen. I've noticed as much, but sometimes it comes in floods where people will call or email or stand at public comment and be like, I didn't know. And it would be wonderful to follow up with those people and ask, where are you getting your information? So that maybe that can help fill in some blanks that we're not thinking of. Yeah, I love that. So then the key messaging and all the examples, those were great examples.

the

I mean so I'm sorry I'm just harping on it again but I said in all the categories we need to optimize the search function of the website so people can actually find what they need I know a lot of us got used to the old one and going some weird clicky ways to find what we could but when the search isn't doing exactly what you want it to it's really difficult and And if someone has to go more than two clicks or keyboard strokes to find what they need, I feel like we have failed.

So we are working on, and it's in early, early development, so no promises on timelines yet, on a chat bot functionality that would be much more of an enhanced search functionality for the website that we're hoping to pilot later this year. And the early tests are very promising. IT'S COMING THE WEBSITE IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN THE BUILT-IN SEARCH FUNCTIONALITY FOR THE PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE. SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN REFINE THAT AND THAT WILL BE A REALLY GOOD AD FOR FOLKS NEEDING TO GET INFORMATION MORE QUICKLY AND EASILY.

AND JUST TO ADD ON THAT, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND A FEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DO SOME TESTING IN THAT SPACE AS WELL TO ASK IT WHATEVER IT COULD think of to see where we can on the back end make some fixes to make sure that it's getting directly

some information that it needs. So we would also welcome any council members that want to be testers.

So I actually already have not a ton. I need to spend more time with it. But so far what I've noticed is it seems to be the teach Amanda Fish philosophy. It's not actually giving you the fish. It's telling you where to find it. If that is the purpose, I think that's okay. But I would rather it have both answer the question and tell them how you got it yourself to empower people sure um but i again that was a rudimentary like 10 minutes so thank you yeah um okay so i'm gonna skip these because i don't think that's what that's about okay uh i have seen twice around town this awesome street sign that says i think it says word on the street and it has um pockets for papers it's been empty both times i've watched by okay um so great idea yeah obviously people love it or hopefully like teenagers or something aren't taking them all right but it may be a good idea to have one that's laminated and actually taped on there so that you can at least read it if um if there are no papers left um

I do like your five categories, the way you broke it down. That's, I think that's great and a good way to really get a handle on the types of information to share. Um, and then, um, I know I shared, uh, and maybe it, it trickled over to, um, CPIO. Uh, I do have a colleague who's a council member. She's the mayor in the city of Truckee, California, and they actually did an infographic of their five priorities that they have pasted on the wall. And so I know we are, believe it or not, one quarter through our term. So it might be a little late to do it now, but we have not actually revitalized these in a long time. It might be a good idea to do something like that in the future, just so it's a constant reminder of what we're working on and it can be pointed to in discussions that we have. And then just related, and in case you weren't aware, I know of at least three different organizations in the city that are actually using AI to take our agendas. Some are taking the agendas from a bunch of things. Some are taking agendas and transcripts from our meetings and creating post synopsis to varying degrees of success. I have seen an awful one. I have seen a great one and I've seen a mediocre one. One is using Substack. One is posting their thing on Reddit and another does an e-newsletter. I think I see this as an example of them trying to provide something that we're not. And so I don't know. I'm just putting that in your lap. So what can we do?

Yeah. So I think it might be related to the Strong Towns organization. Yeah. And so we had someone reach out and I've not been successful in reconnecting with them to talk through, Hey, we're pulling this stuff together and we'd love to partner with the city to like have an actual review and vetting process, which I'm totally great with. I just haven't had, we haven't

connected yet. So I, so I know who that was too. And I would just question because they, that organization doesn't have a lot of knowledge of what happens in the first place. Like I believe their last synopsis said like, whoa, they've gotten a lot done in the first three months. And I was like, we always do that in the first three months of a new council. So it's not a lot or a little, it's just is. So I, I mean, if, if your department wants to take time to review what the public is doing, I think that's fine, but I'm looking at it more as they're filling a void that isn't there. The third entity that I think is doing it really well is just because they're a bunch of tech kids and they have a specific environmental bent. And so they are actually doing a pretty good job of pulling from what we're doing and how it applies to bigger plans and all these things. So I'm just, yeah, I'm not directing. I'm not planning. I'm just saying, I think there's a

void there that we should. Yeah, I think that's a great opportunity to explore. And I mean, I do

think there's there's the option of like we own the story and then there's also benefit sometimes in having a neutral community voice too right like um if you're being sold to by a company

versus your friend telling you something cool about a product like there is some benefit in that so we can definitely take that back to the team and kind of noodle on what what might be a

good approach moving forward noodle is exactly the word i was thinking of right thank you yes other council members

Anne? Sure I could go mostly to say that I feel so immature in this discussion I don't know

like I don't know I think

you're doing great this looks good I love all of the suggestions I have nothing to add and that's where the lack of tenure

I think is I'm just not prepared yet to really weigh in substantially but thank

you you're a natural but you also are a natural on camera from what I hear from my video team so you say that to all the new jumping in great

Director of Public Works. City Attorney. Amy. Thank you. I think this is great. And I would love to be able to participate more in social media. I stink at it. And there's a lot of times, I mean, I just throughout my morning and whatever, I want to be able to post stuff that I'm experiencing. And it ties in so well with how you've categorized everything. Like those categories, I could think of five things already just in my morning walk, how I can put it in. point this out, what the city is doing and how it plays a role in the enjoyment of my morning. I stink at social media, though. I don't know how to operate Instagram fast enough, and I need help with that. So if there's a way to get some help with that, that would be awesome. And participating in the chatbot would be great, too, to really understand what, just the experience of what everybody will experience. But then also, we got an email about our city this week and understanding how that ties into engagement because I think the idea of our city is great you know and just a public platform so to speak but how does how how does this because I'm still understanding it all how does this all tie in with our city

yeah so our city is um an enhancement in the digital experience for online engagement And the criteria that we have for putting something on our city versus just establishing a web page is if we actually are going to use some of the engagement tools to solicit feedback. And we have some additional criteria. You know, is this going to come before council? Do we have dedicated staff that can monitor the page and make sure that we're keeping it updated? I will say it's probably due for a little bit of a revamp because we've been so focused on, you know, website implementation. but that's the intent is it's it's more project based um we'll probably establish one for this ongoing conversation around a surveillance policy where we're going to have multiple touch points we're going to have opportunities for the community to weigh in um if it's just you know a project like a construction project we would probably just establish a web page for that there's not a lot of

interaction so that's the intent of our city and i think it's great i love that like because i i I mean, I personally don't know how to use Reddit, but I know that this is kind of that type of same tool, and I think it's great.

And then your backup slides, the language access, however we can amplify that, I would be all in favor of, and however I can help.

That would be great.

Yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you.

I'll just add I when I read the why I was like bingo that's like I felt like oh we're on the same page which is really good and I like the focus areas I'm curious how is new items come up

like council relays those to you I mean you can just reach out to me how however is easy and

convenient for you okay yeah that's great yeah also with word on the street I wonder if we ever

put QR codes on them? So yes, and QR codes can be co-opted for malicious use. And so if they're there, it's tricky on signage to someone could put something over it and direct people to a malicious site. So we're really judicious in where and how we use QR codes. Great. I would have never

thought about that. And I also love word on the street because it's so homey and like kitchen. Yeah. It's great. The only feedback I would have is that in the kind of space of resources, like I love the 60 minute, many city in 60 seconds. And I think it's great. And it's like really captured. I'm not sure that all of the social media has to be so polished and so produced. I think that there's an opportunity and an interest from community of just seeing more natural on the fly, like kind of not produced.

So is that part of kind of weaving? Yeah. And we've we've definitely heard that feedback, too. And that's what we're trying to do. Like, for example, for the groundbreaking last week for the community center, for the trail connection ribbon joining. I guess it wasn't a cutting doing some live Instagram stories of like, hey, we're here in this moment. And I think we did some around Pride Fest and Eco Fest, too. Like, council members are here. So, yes, less polish, more kind of in the moment, and balancing sort of where do we feel like we need a little bit more editorial production and where can we just kind of be a little more organic.

Okay. Yeah. And as part of the plan, I love that we're now doing, like, live more quick updates for these events. Is the plan to kind of take the unedited production to also like council members or like or is it always going to be so polished when we're interviewing or talking?

I mean, I think, yeah, I think that if there's comfort in you all being in the moment with us, we're happy to do that. And I think we had some photos of a few of you maybe listening sessions and some of these events. So yeah, depending on, you know, what, where you are, we're happy to be a little bit more of that kind of organic off the cuff.

I think that the organic side is, is nice. And also there's, you know, when we're talking about connecting community, showing that electeds are just regular residents, I think is super helpful. So yeah.

One of the other things we talked about is kind of a, um, like a council in 60 where you all can just talk about who you are as a human being and get to know your council member. Like, here's your district. I'm this district. Here's kind of the key areas of focus for me. When I'm not counseling, I like to do this. So I think there's some fun opportunities there, too, just to just bring the human component out. Yes, 100%. Okay. Well, other than that,

I just think it looks great. So thank you. Yeah, I'm excited to see where this goes. Appreciate it. Thank you. Other questions or comments? Yeah, Denzel.

So you may have seen that Amanda's title has changed slightly, Chief Communication and Engagement Officer. So I just want to take a moment to let her make a quick answer.

Yeah, so we do have a new name, so we're not going to be CPIO anymore, even though we will all lovingly remember that acronym. So because we've got some new teams that have come into the fold under our centralized office, including a centralized focus on public engagement we are now the communications and engagement department so hopefully a little bit more clearer and easier for folks to understand the breadth of work that we're doing great CEO

one last letter all right any other questions comments all right any Any announcements?

Okay. See none. We will adjourn. Good night, Fort Collins.